Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

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Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby PES Stats Database » 2011 Jun 26, 21:17

Belgrano
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Full name: Club Atlético Belgrano

Nickname: El Pirata (The pirate), El Celeste (Light-blue)

Founded: 1905

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Club stadium: Estadio Julio César Villagra (Gigante de Alberdi)
Location: Alberdi, Córdoba Capital
Capacity: 28.000
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Official Website: belgranocordoba.com

Honours:

Argentine Second Division (4)
Torneo Reducido 1990/1991, 1997/1998
Promoción 2005/2006, 2010/2011

Lower Leagues (76)
Liga Cordobesa de Fútbol (31): 1913, 1914, 1917, 1919, 1920, 1929, 1930, 1931, 1932, 1933, 1935, 1936, 1937, 1940, 1944, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1954, 1955, 1957, 1970, 1971, 1973, 1984, 1985, 2003
Segunda División Liga Cordobesa (3): 1908, 1909, 1910
Unión Cordobesa de Fútbol 1956
Campeonato Sidral 1931
Primera División ACF (2): 1984, 1985
Campeonato Provincial ACF (3): 1983, 1984, 1985
Copa Gath & Cháves 1924
Copa Reina Victoria (3): 1914, 1916 y 1917
Campeonato Vélez Sársfield 1915
Campeonato Preparación LCF (5): 1936, 1941, 1943, 1947 y 1949
Torneo Regional (Córdoba) (9):39 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1977, 1981, 1985
Campeonato Federación (5): 1913, 1914, 1917, 1919 y 1920
Campeonato de la Bandera 1916

Regional Tournaments (10)
Torneo Regional de AFA 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1977, 1981, 1985, 1986

National Tournament (1)
Torneo del Interior 1985/1986

MANAGER: _arg Ricardo ZIELINSKI
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SQUAD


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FORMATION:

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GK: Juan Carlos OLAVE
RSB: Pier BARRIOS / Lucas AVELDAÑO
RCB: Lucas AVELDAÑO
LCB: Cristian LEMA
LSB: Federico ALVAREZ / Pier BARRIOS
RMF: Lucas ZELARAYÁN
DMF: Guillermo FARRÉ
DMF:cMF Lucas PITTINARI / Esteban GONZÁLEZ
LMF: Jorge VELÁZQUEZ
SS: César PEREYRA
CF: JULIO FURCH

Tactics: Long balls for counterattack
Formation: 4-4-2
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Long FK Taker: ZELARAYÁN
Short FK Taker: ZELARAYÁN
FK Taker 2: AVELDAÑO
Left CK Taker: ZELARAYÁN
Right CK Taker: ZELARAYÁN
PK Taker: PEREYRA
Players to Join Attack: AVELDANO, BARRIOS, LEMA


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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby gotaa » 2011 Aug 02, 01:29

Official numbers for the next season:
1- Juan Carlos Olave
2- Alejandro Lembo
4- Hernán Grana
5- Guillermo Farré
6- Luciano Lollo
7- César Pereyra
8- Ribair Rodríguez
9- Lucas Parodi
10- Franco Vázquez
11- César Mansanelli
12- Tobías Figueroa
14- Federico Almerares
15- Lucas Pittinari
16- Juan Leandro Quiroga
17- Hugo Padilla
18- Iván Etevenaux
19- Juan Carlos Maldonado
20- Pablo Heredia
21- Paul Ramos
22- Andrés Silvera
23- Claudio Pérez
24- Pier Barrios
25- Gastón Turus
26- Federico Mancuello
27- Giuliano Bardin
28- César Rigamonti
29- Fernando González
30- Bruno Pezzella
32- "Teté" González

Source: La Voz del Interior

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby julgui » 2011 Aug 02, 01:30

Good info gotaa!

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Sep 02, 05:39

Updated all numbers :mrgreen:

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby gotaa » 2011 Oct 13, 03:32

IMO, the formation should be:

Olave
Turús---Lembo---Pérez---Quiroga
--Farré--Ribair--
Mansanelli---------------Mancuello/Maldonado
--Vázquez-------
--Pereyra---


Both Ribair and Farre as DMF, Vazquez kind of AM and maybe with a strategy to put him as SS sometimes. Mancuello first choice on the left side of the MF but depending on his condition or injuries, and no way Silvera starter. Belgrano plays defensively and trying to get on counter attacks and that is the formation most proper for this.

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Oct 13, 03:58

Mmm I don't agree at all, I watched all formations which used Zielinski this tournament. Silvera isn't playing because he's injured, but he's clearly starter with Picante Pereyra and Vazquez as AMF/SMF. Because of Silvera's absence, Vazquez plays as a kind of SS and the system is 4-4-2. I was analysing that Mancuello is starter sometimes, but it's too difficult to find a formation when the coachs uses a different each match and there's a key player injured who makes different all. Because Pereyra and Vazquez never can be substitutes and when Silvera was in form he played all his matches in forward. Probably the main difficult is the midfield, but in the firsts matches played Mansanelli-Farre-Ribair Rodriguez, or sometimes Maldonado in spite of Farre.

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby gotaa » 2011 Oct 15, 15:05

vickingo_73 wrote:Mmm I don't agree at all, I watched all formations which used Zielinski this tournament. Silvera isn't playing because he's injured, but he's clearly starter with Picante Pereyra and Vazquez as AMF/SMF. Because of Silvera's absence, Vazquez plays as a kind of SS and the system is 4-4-2. I was analysing that Mancuello is starter sometimes, but it's too difficult to find a formation when the coachs uses a different each match and there's a key player injured who makes different all. Because Pereyra and Vazquez never can be substitutes and when Silvera was in form he played all his matches in forward. Probably the main difficult is the midfield, but in the firsts matches played Mansanelli-Farre-Ribair Rodriguez, or sometimes Maldonado in spite of Farre.


The system they use and have been using mostly since their promotion is 4-4-1-1, that is known. We don't even have Vázquez with SMF position. And the fact is that Silvera may be in bad physical condition but as long as he keeps his horrible level he'll continue to be substitute, even if he recovers. It'll be a matter of time, then you can update this formation if I'm right. Of course, ACCORDING TO THE ROSTER and the players NAMES, this would be the optimal formation but isn't either the most used or the one with which Belgrano feels comfortable playing. That's my opinion

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Oct 16, 00:12

But Silvera started the tournament as starter, and he only went out because of a serious injurie, a ball hurted his eye :?

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby xeneize » 2011 Oct 16, 23:51

today again was 4-4-1-1

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby ClaudioVicente » 2012 Feb 20, 20:43

I correct the captain of Belgrano is not Olave is Gaston Turus for two seasons already .... and I leave the new numbers that it uses the pirate in the alone clausura is absent that a moderator approves them.

1 Olave, Juan Carlos (Por)
2 Lembo, Alejandro
3 Melano, Lucas
4 Grana, Hernán
5 Farre, Guillermo
6 Lollo, Luciano
7 Pereyra, César Emmanuel
8 Rodríguez Pérez, Ribair
9 Parodi, Lucas
10 Pérez, Marco
11 Mansanelli, César
12 Figueroa, Tobias
13 Alvarez Suarez, Gastón
14 Almerares, Federido
15 Pittinari, Lucas Abel
16 Quiroga, Juan Leandro
17 Padilla, Hugo
18 Etevenaux, Ivan
19 Maldonado, Juan Carlos
20 Heredia, Pablo (Por)
21 Ramos, Joan Paul
22 Silvera, Andres
23 Pérez, Claudio
24 Barrios, Pier Miqueas
25 Turus, Gastón Alejandro (captain)
26 Mancuello, Federíco
27 Bardin, Giuliano
28 Rigamonti, Cesar (Por)
29 González, Fernando
30 Pezzella, Bruno
31 Zelarayan, Lucas
32 González, Esteban
33 Giménez, Matías
34 Orquera, Emanuel

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby xeneize » 2012 Apr 02, 19:05

somebody have the actual formation? :mrgreen:

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby gotaa » 2012 Apr 02, 21:05

GK Olave
RB Turús --- CB Lembo --- CB C. Pérez --- LB Quiroga
DM Ribair - DM Farré/E. Gonzalez
RM Mansanelli----------------------------- LM M. Giménez
SS C. Pereyra ------ CF Silvera


That's the most common formation, althought Parodi is having more presences nowadays as RCM or CM. Grana has played as RB and Turus as LB the last matches.

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Apr 02, 21:19

Zielinski fluctuates a lot the formation since Vazquez went to Italy, that disorganizated all at least to me. This must be the most rustic team in the divisional, those 4 "defenders" are a total blasphemy to technical skills. Agree with what gotaa always said about them, they just kicks the ball hard when it comes, they don't know do other thing, or may be Zielinski says to them that, a shame. Parodi deserves to be as starter, what happened with Ribair last matches, didn't play right? Many new young players made appearances too.

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby gotaa » 2012 Apr 02, 22:11

Well, lately the team has suffered the injuries or Silvera, Pereyra, Matias Gimenez, Grana, Farré, plus the suspensions to Ribair Rodriguez and the poor level of Mansanelli and Quiroga (what a horse)... that's why he couldn't get a steady 11. Pier Barrios, Parodi, Lollo, Almerares, Marco Perez and Maldonado have had chances of playing lately, but they wouldn't be first choices if everybody were OK phisically

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby xeneize » 2012 Apr 02, 22:28

well... all that you said means wait for recover the injuried players and after that see teh best formation to put, right? :lol:

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby Magic10 » 2012 Jul 16, 00:52

Missings Fernando Marquez from Crucero del Norte and Juan Martin(argentinian from the greek football)

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Jul 16, 03:05

Do you have any idea of them? If they haven't sets is cause there aren't users with proper knowledge of the player and stats. And honestly, who can watch Argentino A players regularely and know about stats? It's pretty difficult find it together.

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby gotaa » 2012 Jul 16, 13:27

I guess the guy didn't have idea on how this works. I've seen Marquez only against Guillermo Brown and remember very little of Martin from his DyJ days, so we'll have to wait to see them. Please Victor, remove "Montevideo Wanderers" from Sergios Rodriguez's name both in forum and db, I can't do it.

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby Magic10 » 2012 Jul 16, 20:17

Sorry I thought maybe theirs stats were out there , but no. And its true, i don´t have much idea how this works but i learn by little, and only suggested something, not demanded the stats. Again sorry. It´s a great forum, the best.

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Re: Belgrano - Squad, Formation and Tactics

Postby gotaa » 2012 Jul 16, 23:20

No problem, your suggestions are welcome, you may know Belgrano players better than most of us if you're a fan.

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