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Robert Lewandowski

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby Mr. Evans » 2012 Jun 17, 15:56

Yup, agree with that. Just noticed his height, there's no way he's just 184 cm.. He's easily 186-187 cm right?

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Jun 17, 16:00

Mr. Evans wrote:Yup, agree with that. Just noticed his height, there's no way he's just 184 cm.. He's easily 186-187 cm right?


Either this or Berezutski has shrinked down some centimeters, to me they seemed to be almost even in height

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby s-cobar » 2012 Jun 25, 09:05

lie I said no interest on discussions about height or whatever - I use official sites.

btw - yes he scored vs. Greece - otherwise a real bad tournament by him. no presence, nothing at all. and it`s like I said, he just works in the perfect-Dortmund-system... Cause others do the runs for him and he´s the last player in a row.

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby Fiddy » 2012 Jun 26, 23:35

I Am not a big follower of his, but his Agility/DA seems a tad high tbh...

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Jun 27, 00:16

I think agility something between 76-78.

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby furymaker » 2012 Jun 27, 22:21

s-cobar wrote:lie I said no interest on discussions about height or whatever - I use official sites.

btw - yes he scored vs. Greece - otherwise a real bad tournament by him. no presence, nothing at all. and it`s like I said, he just works in the perfect-Dortmund-system... Cause others do the runs for him and he´s the last player in a row.

i wouldn't say he had bad tournament , he lacked supportive midfielders and didn't receive too many passes , still tried hard , ran a lot , etc.
Also I wouldn't say he just works in perfect-dortmund system , if that's so , than you can say same thing for Benzema , who had worst tournament than Lewa . Didn't went quite well for them

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby jurgens » 2012 Jul 16, 11:17

Been meaning to post this for awhile.


Name: R. LEWANDOWSKI

Club: ?
Number: ?
Position: CF*, AMF, SS
Nationality: Polish _pol
Age: 22 (xx-yy-1990)

Foot: R
Side: B

Length: 184
Weight: 78

Attack: 85
Defence: 44
Balance: 83
Stamina: 84
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 79
Response: 84
Agility: 75
Dribble Accuracy: 77
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 75
Short Pass Speed: 74
Long Pass Accuracy: 76
Long Pass Speed: 73
Shot Accuracy: 84
Shot Power: 79
Shot Technique: 82
Free Kick Accuracy: 66
Curling: 65
Header: 83
Jump: 82
Technique: 81
Aggression: 88
Mentality: 70
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 82

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 5

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Yeah he needs an update. Not that fast, nowhere near that agile, or good on the ball. Lewandowski is really sloppy in many aspects of his game... notice a trend here? Many of the BL's best players are really sloppy. His dribbling is all over the place, sometimes it looks decent, and other times its just abysmally bad. Hes kinda oafish on the ball, just really sloppy, little agility, little control... but though hes an oaf at times, he can be surpisingly quick on his feet... maybe he could have slightly higher agility. His passing is just.. so sloppy. He gives away such needless passes, passes he should never miss, but he actually has pretty decent vision.. he can make the right choices, but his accuracy is sorely lacking. What makes him a good player is his energy and agression, hes always running around, dropping to the midfield, to the sides, very energetic and very agresive, but really sloopy. Maybe I'm being harsh on attack, but I don't think hes particularity special in any regard.

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Jul 16, 17:49

I'm 50/50 about your numbers. ACC, AGI, DS & MEN are downgraded all too harshly in my book, he isn't THAT stiff and slow in his movements and I do not see a reason to drop his MEN by more than 2 points. Also why lowering his SP at all? He's no Huntelaar and perfectly able to score from distance. Ok, maybe I'm a little bit over-sensitive about SP, in PES2012 a player with SP 79 doesn't shoot anymore but lobs the ball all the time :P.
On the other hand I feel you are very generous about his heading, he's nothing special in that department, headers aren't placed very well especially under pressure. He surely is skilled in passing the ball on to his teammates via his head from a goal kick or a long cross but I'm sure that he's accurately enough in that matter with the number from the original set.
Maybe curling could be a low 70's, I'm not sure if there has been a newer definition of the stat but if he crosses he mostly gives the ball a nice bit of effet.
With the rest I agree.

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby jurgens » 2012 Jul 16, 18:08

didn't notice the difference in SP. I actually just use konamis values, I thought it was the same here, no problem with me for 81. About head.. I think hes very sloppy (as I said for many of his other features) at times, and then other times hes really precise, I'm on the fence with the 83 for the reasons, so I can agree with lower. Ment, could have higher yeah, just a default value I overlooked.

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby Korinov » 2012 Jul 16, 20:01

Malakayi wrote:in PES2012 a player with SP 79 doesn't shoot anymore but lobs the ball all the time :P.


I must be playing a different PES 2012 then, because I've shot and scored via players with 70 (or even lower) SP and no lobs at all.

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby furymaker » 2012 Jul 16, 23:47

He meant when AI controlled
Also I think SP can be 83 or even more , he has powerful shot , he just likes placement over power
BB could be higher , he can knock defenders out easily , I would give him 84-85 , he wins a lot duels when facing back to the goal , *post player only comes up handy in earlier versions , in 2012 he is a lot weaker than in RL

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby jurgens » 2012 Jul 17, 09:51

You make it sound like hes some really strong player, hes not. He spends a lot of time on the ground, really questionable if he deserves 83.

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby tomaster » 2012 Jul 19, 15:29

jurgens wrote:You make it sound like hes some really strong player, hes not. He spends a lot of time on the ground, really questionable if he deserves 83.


Actually You are wrong, he is a strong player.

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby čale » 2012 Jul 19, 17:37

it's already explained on the last page, BB 83 + *TD + *PP.

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby furymaker » 2012 Jul 19, 17:43

83 BB is wrong for him in PES 12 , try it yourself , you will see he is kind of soft , doesnt replicate him well enough , probably with post player card in earlier versions of pes it works well , but in 2012 , he is weaker than he is in real life

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Jul 19, 18:53

I'm with jurgens and cale about BB, more than current value would be too generous.
He's no fucking Terminator.

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Aug 02, 03:02

Updated. Like jurgens set, mainly. Took some others suggestions and some personal opinions.

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby KillaKlo » 2012 Aug 02, 12:19

Is there an overall Downgrade in DA going on? Because giving him DA 77 fucks up the ladder pretty much (Ibisevic and Kießling are 4 points higher, what..). Though, it fits okay in the PL Ladder for example. Giving this as standard, I'd prefer DA 79, one point over Giroud is right I think. A high difference between Agility and DA fits very well for him in my eyes.

Furthermore, I'd switch Acc with TS and SA with ST. I still don't know where you see his Accuracy over his Technique in shooting, he always looked better with complicated shot positions. I think his Acc gets a bit mixed up with his weak agility, he's good on linear start ups I think. On longer distance he can rarely beat anyone actually.

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Aug 02, 22:33

I see Ibisevic better than him in terms of DA but Kiessling has a similar DA imo - both cant handle the ball close to his feet. Thought you wanted switching his old values of TS/ACC (84/82 if I'm not wrong...)

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Re: Robert LEWANDOWSKI

Postby azielok » 2012 Aug 06, 00:17

BB 83 + *TD + *PP > BB 85, but in PES 2011, we have PES 2012 and PES 2013 is coming.
So the use of special abilities and the cards from the PES 2011 doesn't make sense.
When PES 2013 comes we will need to use the cards that there will be and special abilities use if they were there.
Time for big changes. Time for a new PES 2013.

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