I went through and deleted a lot of unnecessary posts. It's sad that before that, there were more replies on the Pato thread than all but 5 Serie A teams
I made some executive decisions & updated:
There was good discussion and explanation from pedala, and even if I do feel he is better at 87 for now....I was trumped. Especially with Helios suggesting an 89, and he is a much better stats maker than me
Now the rest I feel still need more thorough discussion before I can update.
Bal: 79-80(metronomo) 79(defrenz)(ulises)
TS: 89(ulises)(pes_hhc)(metronomo)(Kris)(brunnoce)(s-j23) 90(leonardo)(lfc)(Angel of Death)(pedala)
Agi: 88(leonardo)(lfc)(Angel of Death)(pedala)
DA: 86(leonardo)(Angel of Death)(pedala) 86/87(lfc)
SA: 82(rfuna)(alex) 83(crisfar)(pedala) 83/84(leonardo)(lfc)(Angel of Death)
With speed I think we really need to settle on a value. He is very fast, but I don't think we know exactly how fast. I personally don't have a problem with either value. I just know he is not as fast as Abate who sits at 91.
For Agility I am not sure he is on par with Lavezzi yet. It's the Giovinco arguement. I think we need to see him use his agility at a higher level more consistently IMO. I feel if you put Pato at 88, there is nothing to stop the Giovinvo watchers from wanting him at an 90+. Not sold that Pato fits in at 88 yet either. The only reason I'd be okay with Pato at 88 is if Alexis SÃNCHEZ(91), Fabrizio MICCOLI(90), GIOVINCO/Foggia(89), MASCARA/LAVEZZI/DI NATALE(88) all moved up one point. Plus Rosina who is currently sitting at 86....will have to go up to an to an 89, because I stated, "definitely above IBRA, CAMORANESI, RONALDINHO, Alexandre PATO" If you can't tell, I've kept a close eye on the Agility ladder in the Serie A
I agree with your DA suggestion.
Edit: last time I spend an hour and a half in the Pato thread