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Alexandre Pato

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 13:50

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby Dino » 2008 Dec 15, 17:32

S-J23 wrote:Pending Suggestions:
SP: 85
BB: 78
TEC: 86

Agree with that

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby S-J23 » 2008 Dec 16, 09:37

updated :geek:

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby Ulises » 2008 Dec 27, 04:46

IMO his ball trap and control is world class, easy to see and meassure in videos and i think it could be raised to 90.

Also i think that his short and long pass abilities are underrated, and all of them should be in green numbers, i think they are really harsh, At least his SPS and LPS could be sighted and compared in videos.

A couple of vidios from youtube there are many more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skCdrkn7 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fta-Jel ... re=related

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby Tom » 2008 Dec 27, 13:33

On a further note, couldn't Pato have a higher LPS. From what I've seen, he can put a fair bit of power behind his crosses, the Catania match springs to mind where he crossed the ball into the box only for Flamini to shoot straight a Bizzarri

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby pedala robinho » 2008 Dec 27, 13:53

I agree aswell that his Technique should go up to 87~88, but I'm trying to not overrate he. He has IMO wordclass first touch and that's is his principal quality, but his DA is good like now. And his Passes can be updated a bit too.

So, my suggestions:

Short Pass Accuracy: 76
Short Pass Speed: 75
Long Pass Accuracy: 76
Long Pass Speed: 75
Technique: 87~88

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby Tom » 2008 Dec 27, 13:55

I didn't mean that his crosses were weak :lol: I actually think that he could have a 75 for LPS, so they have some power but they're not going to be powerfully launched if you will.

But yeah, that Technique value seems fair.

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby pedala robinho » 2008 Dec 29, 04:24

So, now I think you will say I'm crazy, but... Don't he deserves one point more on Top Speed? I mean, Aguero is rated at 89, and, TBH, I don't think he's faster than Pato.

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 29, 11:00

In Re's update Messi is 92TS and Aguero is 88TS ;)

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby pedala robinho » 2008 Dec 29, 16:17

Yeah, Aguero is surely faster than Messi... TBH, I can live even with:

Messi - TS: 87, ACC: 96
Aguero - TS: 88, ACC: 92
Pato - TS: 89, ACC: 90~91

For me, is totally unsense rate Messi faster than 87.

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby renatomm » 2008 Dec 29, 16:34

don't u think he deserves a SCORING star,
he was Milan's Top Scorer in 2008!

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby pedala robinho » 2008 Dec 29, 16:57

Not sure about SCORING*, but 1-1 SCORING* I'm totally surely.

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 29, 17:26

renatomm wrote:don't u think he deserves a SCORING star,
he was Milan's Top Scorer in 2008!

No...from my understanding he needs to show this pace for multiple seasons before he can get the *Scoring.

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby metronomo » 2008 Dec 30, 09:02

pato is faster than messi and aguero, this includes top speed and acceleration
if anyone has seen a milan game, you will notice the great acceleration that pato has, and off course his top speed.....

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby pedala robinho » 2008 Dec 30, 14:47

Are you sure Pato have a better acceleration than Messi :shock: ?
So, what about Aguero ACC: 91 and Pato ACC: 92?

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby metronomo » 2008 Dec 30, 15:22

pedala robinho wrote:Are you sure Pato have a better acceleration than Messi :shock: ?
So, what about Aguero ACC: 91 and Pato ACC: 92?

yes, for me, pato has a better ACC.
your suggestions are good

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby metronomo » 2008 Dec 31, 01:24

yes, passing should be improved.....maybe putting those in green would be ok.

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby pedala robinho » 2008 Dec 31, 03:57

So, to summarize all suggestions:

Top Speed: 89 - (+8)
Acceleration: 91 - (+8)
Dribble Speed: 88 - (+8)
Short Pass Accuracy: 76 - (+7) (-1)
Short Pass Speed: 75 - (+7) (-1)
Long Pass Accuracy: 76 - (+7) (-1)
Long Pass Speed: 75 - (+7) (-1)
Technique: 88 - (+6) (-1)

Agrees: pedala robinho, Ulises, pes_hhc, metronomo, Kris, Brunnoce (+6)
Disagrees: (-0)

So, I agree :D ... Who more?

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby Dino » 2008 Dec 31, 17:40

I agree with all except for Technique, he's not that good yet.

I also disagree with 1-on-1 Scoring*

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Re: Alexandre PATO

Postby pedala robinho » 2008 Dec 31, 17:51

Well, TBH, I think the Technique was the main modification that he needed. I mean, his first touch is suberb, surelly better than Anderson, Pandev, Tévez, Crouch and Menéz.
I really think you agree Pato's first touch is worst than Menéz's first touch! Or am I wrong?
TBH, I agree with Ulises that his first touch is better even than Benzema or Aguero.

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