Massimo Ambrosini

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Massimo Ambrosini

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 13:34

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby DeFrenZ » 2010 Jan 25, 14:07

last time i've seen him he surprised me making me think he still deserves those values...

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby zuo » 2010 Jan 25, 16:20

If the BB,Jump and Header values are overrated.....well not by really much imo. That BB value is representing his strong tackling despite being 182x72,a slim build....probably could be a point lower,but guys like De Rossi got 11 kgs more...even Palombo is heavier than Ambro.His Jump could be anywhere between 88 and 90,i think that before was at 91 to represent his % of winning headers with a lower BB....and he wins a lot of them.

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby Rfuna » 2010 Jan 25, 16:22

zuo wrote:If the BB,Jump and Header values are overrated.....well not by really much imo. That BB value is representing his strong tackling despite being 182x72,a slim build....probably could be a point lower,but guys like De Rossi got 11 kgs more...even Palombo is heavier than Ambro.His Jump could be anywhere between 88 and 90,i think that before was at 91 to represent his % of winning headers with a lower BB....and he wins a lot of them.

besides why would an interisti overrate a dick like Ambrosini ;)

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby zuo » 2010 Feb 17, 05:26

Hardman's battle tonight vs Fletcher. Ambro is always the die-hard heart of Milan. his hard tackling is always nice to watch :D

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby Manne » 2010 Oct 18, 21:44

He's currently 2 points over Pastore in SPA how is this possible? He plays simple conservative short passes and has decent crosses. SPA 77 is enough and he doesn't deserve more than that.

Passing stats for OMF's is often underated but consevative passing CMF'S passing stats so often overated. What's the reason for this this don't make any sense. You often have OMFS with passing stats similar similar to players like Gattuso and Ambrosini. That's to put it kindly completely messed up.

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby zuo » 2010 Oct 19, 03:14

you could defintly have a point here. i half agree with you...but;
he mostly plays around the midfield and hasnt got the ball even when the action is 40 m from the goal.
at that distance pirlo,seedorf or dinho already have the ball. he just get back possession and serve who 'HAS' to create..even if able,he "can't" show adventurous passing.
second, he doesen't has the Passing*.....and the star means something.

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby master smurf » 2010 Oct 19, 14:49

Manne wrote:He's currently 2 points over Pastore in SPA how is this possible? He plays simple conservative short passes and has decent crosses. SPA 77 is enough and he doesn't deserve more than that.

Passing stats for OMF's is often underated but consevative passing CMF'S passing stats so often overated. What's the reason for this this don't make any sense. You often have OMFS with passing stats similar similar to players like Gattuso and Ambrosini. That's to put it kindly completely messed up.


Agree with this - I am of the opinion that many of the CMF's should probably be rated how the CF's are with respect to passing. If they arent creative like Fabergas, Alonso, Pirlo, Xavi they usually just make the closest pass.

On Ambrsini in particular - he may have been overrated due to playing with great stars and when he was playing well and they weren't living up to their reputations he was probably increased more than them being decreased.

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby zuo » 2010 Nov 21, 02:43

to me he is just more responsive than both Gattuso and Flamini. currently all the trio is rated at 86. would probably leave Mentality ratio like as it is, Ambrosini<Gattuso<Flamini and in terms of response would say Flamini<Gattuso<Ambrosini. as an example Stamina has to be Gattuso<Ambrosini<Flamini and Aggression the same order.

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby crisfar » 2011 Nov 15, 00:58

Updated jump and header plus sta and bb.

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby ynwasg8 » 2011 Nov 28, 02:35

I think 79 SPA is pretty harsh it puts him on par with Cristiano Ronaldo.He deserves similar value of Lass.

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby Mr. Evans » 2012 Mar 10, 14:34

Same with Flamini, his set was outdated.

thor34 wrote:JUMP: 80/81/82. Digestible methionine and leap up to splice the header. From what I saw the half-length coat will easily to Angeleri.
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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby zuo » 2012 Mar 12, 19:06

he's 100% a 6 WFA considering passing and shooting stats.

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby ingus » 2012 Mar 16, 20:24

zuos right, ambros always been great with both feet. Btw, this def/tw value is too harsh imo.

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby čale » 2012 Mar 16, 20:35

^ yeah, i'm pretty sure that he's bordering on the greens for DEF, while MENT looks a bit off the charts tbh, he's lost quite a bit of that grip and determination he used to have, he still is quite a determined player but the current value is a bit too high IMO, i'm thinking around 84-ish max, and TW could get a 2pt boost too...any thoughts?

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby bitz » 2012 Mar 29, 08:27

He had great game yesterday, he did show a high MENT. I think if it weren't for him and Nesta Barca would have won it.

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby rgm91 » 2012 Mar 29, 17:47

defence should be in greens

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby Mr. Evans » 2012 Mar 29, 19:13

That was one of the best matches I've seen him play, amazing.

thor34 wrote:JUMP: 80/81/82. Digestible methionine and leap up to splice the header. From what I saw the half-length coat will easily to Angeleri.
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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby ingus » 2012 Mar 30, 07:07

rarely plays anywhere near that good though

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby MrEskola » 2012 Mar 30, 19:44

Has improved a bit from last season. This season he has been playing fairly well and his performance against Barcelona was top class. He's tough guy, but not that "tough" as Gattuso. :D

Personally, I've always liked him. He's not special, but defensive midfielders are rarely classified as special.

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Re: Massimo AMBROSINI

Postby Fantasista » 2012 Sep 06, 11:52

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