Philippe Mexès

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[čale]

gotta say that i agree with the suggestions apart from a raise in AGI, he's waaay to sluggish to even deserve a green value IMO, the way he turns his body is even painful to watch, it's like he's skiing those hard and unbalanced/uncontrolled moves he does on 90 degree turns are just horrid, and when he's wrong footed by a player it's really terrifying...the only thing which helps him is that he's balanced that out with his decent ball control and movements when it's in his possession...

[crisfar]

I agree, ok with the other suggestions but no for agility I was even thinking to go under greens for him, cale explained perfectly why...

[FernandoA13]

Okay fair enough my suggestion was mainly based on when he dribbles, its descent for a CB.

[zuo]

i know there's a kind of lowering "agi standard" ...
for his size imo mexes isnt super-unagile. Chiellini is lesser agile and composed even being 1 cm shorter and 6 kgs lighter.

[crisfar]

OMG! He was destroyed by Messi on a long run ...now here they only have 4 pts diffrence but he lost around 2-3 mts in 20 mts ao I think there must be 8-10 points so either we have to raise Messi ts or lower him...

[čale]

not destroyed, OBLITERATED! he's painfully slow and has always been, i really can't see a justified reason why he's rated that high...personally i've always had him tops at TS 75 and that was two or three seasons ago...nowadays i've got him on 73/70 which is more than enough...

now to comment on his match;
he was terrible IMO, showed that he has little tactical intelligence and often makes unnecessary moves which constantly complicate his life and bring the team into problems...he's constantly being dragged out of his position by various players completely losing and kind of positional sense and just continues chasing the player until he takes the ball away or fouls him leaving gapping holes at the back, and also, when there is no Nesta to coordinate him and his movements he gets completely lost, he had two oncoming players both running 5 meters wide from him from both sides and he decided that it would be best if he stands in the middle of them instead of choosing a player to mark and lessening the oncoming danger. those were just glaring errors this match, but there were more, but they were less obvious and tactically related...

oh and, i'm bringing the former discussion about his DA, AGI and LPA back to the spotlight. Opinions?

[crisfar]

So values that come now in my mind can be TS 73/74, Acc 73, for the reasons you expressed cale I would lower def just -1 and TW around 74-75, also Ment seems a bit generous (why I left it like that in last update?) maybe can be 79-80, also header can go a bit down...then condition to 5...other suggestions?

[čale]

i'd rather decrease TW to a 74/75 with 79/80 MENT as it would make him lose his spot more often in the backline. and i believe that ACC has to be under his TS, as for condition, i agree on a 5.

[7oodam]

I think you guys are a bit harsh on him, after all he's not the only guy who was outpaced by messi

[čale]

this has nothing to do with him being outpaced, this is about him being f-ing slow, he never even deserved these speed stats...

[jurgens]

his technical skills are clearly much higher than this, hes very good for a cb in this regard

[Joak]

his technical skills are clearly much higher than this, hes very good for a cb in this regard

Yep, agree too, very technical for a cb and with a good distribution from the back...

[čale]

So, i've updated his DEF, TS, ACC, AGI, TW & MENT.

I'd like to reach now a general consensus on his DA and S/LPA.

[7oodam]

I think you still haven't updated his techncal skills. I have him on 78 DA/TEC and 82 LPA 80 LPS,
He delivered another amazing long pass to cassano against Novara

[čale]

i know, and that's why i said:

I'd like to reach now a general consensus on his DA and S/LPA.

i'd like to hear more opinions on those stats, that's all.

[7oodam]

Ok, that's why I gave you my opinion

[MrEskola]

If anything, he's very inconsistent performer. Condition 5 is a must.

I do agree that he has quite good technique and DA for a centre-back's standard. Only his agility, or his unagility lets him down. He really has to have at least DA and TECH 78, SPA 77, both LP stats on 80.

Can somebody explain why he has only 80 STA? I think he has to have at least 85.

[coly]

If anything, he's very inconsistent performer. Condition 5 is a must.

I do agree that he has quite good technique and DA for a centre-back's standard. Only his agility, or his unagility lets him down. He really has to have at least DA and TECH 78, SPA 77, both LP stats on 80.

Can somebody explain why he has only 80 STA? I think he has to have at least 85.

agree with everything except STA. a very few CBs deserve that value imo, especially with the new standard.... i'm fine with current 80, or 81 maximum

[anonyme]

Does he deserves this high response? I'm not 100% sure but in all games of NT I saw, he seems like a very slow CB wich prefer waiting back of the defense to intercept balls. I don't remember him getting out of the defensive line. For example, when I play PES with France NT Mexès always get out to intercept ball because of this high response, may be I'm wrong but I don't feel him as this type of defense.

[MrEskola]

If anything, he's very inconsistent performer. Condition 5 is a must.

I do agree that he has quite good technique and DA for a centre-back's standard. Only his agility, or his unagility lets him down. He really has to have at least DA and TECH 78, SPA 77, both LP stats on 80.

Can somebody explain why he has only 80 STA? I think he has to have at least 85.

agree with everything except STA. a very few CBs deserve that value imo, especially with the new standard.... i'm fine with current 80, or 81 maximum

Ah okay, I'm not always alert about the new standards...