Andrea Pirlo

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[čale]

i'm not sure on ATT
SPS needs a massive bump, so agree
RES @ 79 for me
DS 78 might seem a bit excessive, i'd opt for something between 75-76
SPA don't know why'd you drop it honestly...
LPS it's already been discussed why he has an 86, going to low yellows would hurt his accuracy
BB seems fair enough.

don't have time atm to post it more in detail....

[Basilio]

i'm not sure on ATT
LPS it's already been discussed why he has an 86, going to low yellows would hurt his accuracy

DS 78 might seem a bit excessive, i'd opt for something between 75-76

i'd agree to that if he had something like 78 for TS, somethimes he is not even catchable when putting pace on the ball, IG he is too slow with 73 and 75 or so.

LPS it's already been discussed why he has an 86, going to low yellows would hurt his accuracy

really ? i saw you and ballmer posting about it, and i agreed to a degree, his passes are very floaty, and i dont see that 86 ever

i'm not sure on ATT

I am, if there would be a more dutch, taller, technical CF that scores a lot of goals in our attack, he'd have like 15 assists, because he is creating so much, its a nightmare for the opposition when he have the ball in the opposition half, defence splitting passes like 4 per game, but some are complicated to control, a Cf with above mentioned characteristics would unclear everyones doubts. Xavi and iniesta so much over him makes me sick

SPA don't know why'd you drop it honestly...

Personal issue, with higher SPS and this SPA, you can play defence splitting through balls like if it was an every game pirlo feature, with even better ease than messi. Pirlo plays passes that deserve both 87 SPS or 92/93 SPA, but the values enables him to play more dangerous passes than the ones he shows

[vinnie]

what your saying that if he had someone like ibra he would have 15 assists? didn't they played together last year

[Basilio]

ibra is dutch ?

[vinnie]

by dutch do you mean a certain playing style? Because Ibra is pretty much the epitome of Tall and Technical there hasn't been a "dutch" striker in some time now, total football is dead under Bert, Netherlands is hardly distinguishable in their playing style from any other major nation now.

[Diego]

Lol I was thinking the exact same thing when i read this

From current day deep playmakers, who else is more "threatening" than him? 85 sounds completely fine.

maybe he shows more range? The thing is that with lpa 98 you can basicaly full the bar to whenever you want and it is very likely that he will reach it with ease, being more floaty as irl.

[Basilio]

by dutch do you mean a certain playing style? Because Ibra is pretty much the epitome of Tall and Technical there hasn't been a "dutch" striker in some time now, total football is dead under Bert, Netherlands is hardly distinguishable in their playing style from any other major nation now.

Dutch=From Holland? nobody ? 8-| Van persie fits the category of tall, technical, dutch that scores plenty goals, a lot of them after an aerial through ball, 'ala pirlo'

[vinnie]

well justs carrying with the assumption you meant a dutch 'style'. After all what other reason would you have to desire a dutch striker only? I suppose RVP would be an asthetically more effective combination, but he is equal with Ibra on overall danger. they are both not young too... I think RVP only has 1-2 great seasons left, not sure about Ibra. RvP won't necessarily be as effective out of Arsenal anyways, he is the unquestioneed captain there by anyone. There is a huge psychological boost from that role that really helps strikers with their confidence (confidence is key, *ahem* torres).

[Basilio]

I meant van persie, just him, it wasnt an 'style' i was describing him in another literary form. I want him because he plays the same role he would in juve probably, and exactly what pirlo needs in front. Also i dont think he will loose confidence in juve, if anything he'll win it, thats what conte does the best, improve players. Anyways thats another topic, discussion can take place in Juventus FC thread if needed

[PESorISS]

His Teamwork is same as Thiago Alcantara's, I doubt that they can be compared in that.Also his Technique is perfect, he is not strong as ibra , not agile like Giovinco, his game depends only on his Techniqune and Teamwork, and we all know that he is number 1.
TW 94
TEC 95

[čale]

his TW is more than fine on an 90, and TECH 95 is far too much for him, he's a master at it but he's not better than Del Piero at trapping the ball.

[Basilio]

Pirlo claims to be updated with his performances ! Give him condition 7 btw, and upgrade on stamina

[čale]

what were the finals numbers?

[Basilio]

not sure what the rest exactly wants, but my choice is:

Att: 85
Def: 70
BB: 74
Resp: 80
SPS: 87
DS: 78

And if we go to a complete revamp i put this

Ment: 79
FKA: 84

[čale]

done, apart from SPS and ATT which i've left as they are.

[Rogatto27]

Why do you decrease his FK?
I still thinking he is one of the best freekickers in Serie A. He deserves something like 88/89.

[Basilio]

he hasnr proved though. A single goal in the whole year by FK, after hundreds of attempts, and just a few went pretty close. Someone like messi have been more consistent

[Rogatto27]

I think this isn't a good argument.
94 - Lodi: 2 goals
90 - Del Piero: 1 goal
88 - Sneijder: 1 goal
87 - Diamanti: 0 goals
85 - Giovinco: 2 goals
84 - Pirlo: 1 goal
84 - D'Agostino: 1 goal
84 - Miccoli: 3 goals
84 - Di Natale: 3 goals

Lodi scored 2 goals and he is 94, Miccoli and Di Natale scored 3 goals and they are 84. Diamanti didn't score this year and he is the 4º best freekicker.

[FernandoA13]

Based from what i've seen i think he deserves higher DA. I'd like to suggest DA 92.

[Yazid]

He absolutely took the piss out of england.