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Andrea Barzagli

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby Basilio » 2012 Jun 08, 22:12

i thought he'll miss the euro

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby čale » 2012 Jun 08, 22:35

nah, it was just a minor knock, he just missed the friendlies.

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby bassamjuve » 2012 Jun 30, 01:42

it is amazing how some players' talents begin to show up at a late age, barzagli is a prime example, this guy has been outstanding in this Euro to prove his worth and fine form at Juventus, if he keeps his form to the champions league, I would not be surprised if my Juve win it next season, knock on wood, haha. But I cannot wait to see his defense in orange if you update him, Bonnucci deserves a raise as well!

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby Basilio » 2012 Jun 30, 04:08

my thoughts are similar to yours, but i will wait until the end of euro to make my suggestions :)

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby Epsi » 2012 Jun 30, 10:52

same as Cassano, gonna make a big update on him after the final.

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby Basilio » 2012 Jul 03, 22:31

think he is a tad too high in some areas, his def is great but not quite a 90 IMO, same goes for his response( i seriously fail to see that 84 but i guess im missing something ) and the teamwrok is too high far away anyone, konami doesnt rate CB's that high. Personally i play him with 89 def, resp 82, and 80 tw. As a side note i noticed his long passing is horrible, he couldnt hit the target ever in the euro, i'd decrease it some points too

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby čale » 2012 Jul 03, 22:50

for me, i'd rate his DEF at 88 and leave TW as it is, he's probably one of the best there when it comes to keeping shape of the d-line.

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Jul 03, 22:58

Maybe I'm not a 100% truly source here. But based if what I have watched on him, specially at Euro, few games with Juve and when he was at BL and before in Palermo. He is a good defender, share Cale view that he is very ordened defender, very smart and applied. But I disagree with actual DEF value, I see him in 87. Nothing more. Fine with current RES, and TW is high but probably deserved on what I have said in the first part of my post.

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby Basilio » 2012 Jul 03, 23:05

very disagree with lower than 88, is what enables him to dont get exposed due to his enormus lack of agility, his cleaness in every aspect

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Jul 04, 00:31

Was analyzing all his defensive behavior in all aspects that is why I said 87. Don't get me wrong. Find him a very good defender. Top international class but not WC. Looks better due all defensive tactic and displays that all teams that he plays for have. If cleaness is your problem give him *Slide tackle star/card. End of it.

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby Basilio » 2012 Jul 04, 00:52

end of it ? end of it ?! lolz end of it ?!! do you have any idea what does defense does ? is 100% cleaness, and not only slide tackles( although it influences greatly ) is standing tackles, composure in relation to his agility, intercepting through balls, use of the body and with teamwork the whole defensive movement. If you cant tell barzagli is 88+ having "analyzed" every aspect of his defending then i cant get you wrong, i take you as ignorant. But lets hear whats the aspect you consider he is not "world class" to you ?

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby čale » 2012 Jul 04, 09:17

calm down, both. he has his opinion you've got yours. end of it.

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Jul 04, 13:40

Lol I just read Basilio's repply. See, that is exactly why I didn't post in Juventus players... #Penoso

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby Giroletti » 2012 Jul 04, 13:42

Basilio wrote: 100% cleaness, and not only slide tackles( although it influences greatly ) is standing tackles, composure in relation to his agility, intercepting through balls, use of the body and with teamwork the whole defensive movement. If you cant tell barzagli is 88+ having "analyzed" every aspect of his defending then i cant get you wrong, i take you as ignorant. But lets hear whats the aspect you consider he is not "world class" to you ?

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby Albo7 » 2012 Jul 04, 14:06

He didn't mean World class. He said WC, hence Barzagli is definitely not a toilet.

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby čale » 2012 Jul 04, 14:42

Agree, Andy Carroll is WC.

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby Basilio » 2012 Jul 04, 21:51

him not having slide tackle for good reasons makes him even deserve more that 88+ def, 90 is a little exagerated though, although he is excellent, he is not a type of player who goes and simply tackles and wins the ball, doesnt have that ease.

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby ErlandAbazi » 2012 Jul 24, 23:09

He has been rock-solid this season for Juventus and surely one of the best CBs in Seria A.
So my suggestion is:
1.His Defense is pretty good but 90 is way, way too much for him. I've followed half of Juve's games this season and I'd rate him at 88 Defense. He's a very good defender but giving him 90 ... is a lot.

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby čale » 2012 Jul 24, 23:10

agree as well, 90 is a bit over the top, agree on the aforementioned 88.

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Re: Andrea BARZAGLI

Postby Epsi » 2012 Jul 30, 13:30

Fine about def.. but what about res/tw combo? He's often perfectly placed but I actually don't know if it's a response issue or a tw one, since he leaves his position to make some of good interceptions... but this can be considered a high-tw movement since he supports the team with good timed anticipations..

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