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Carlton Cole

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby Brezza » 2009 Jan 03, 00:16

I agree with the suggestions discussed rather than Paddy's set of stats, I don't think that hes slower or a worse dribbler than Emile Heskey.

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby Paddy » 2009 Jan 03, 14:23

Emile Heskey is overated on this though, I think these two should be on par for speed

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby Brezza » 2009 Jan 18, 17:57

Who can stop Carlton Goal?! NO ONE CAN~!

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby Paddy » 2009 Jan 18, 18:03

he's a hero ATM!

I don't want to put him in my FF squad because he'll stop scoring as soon as I do, and I want him to continue, he deserves it really.

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby TheTrueSeto » 2009 Jan 19, 06:32

Hello? Update please? The mods want us to look at the smaller clubs more, but yet it's still taking forever :?

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby fishdalf » 2009 Jan 19, 07:38

Yeah i think everyone can agree he is horribly outdated. I'll update it now, tell me what you think...

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby TheTrueSeto » 2009 Jan 19, 08:03

Actually, I don't think his first touch is that poor, maybe it should be at least 78

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby fishdalf » 2009 Jan 19, 08:05

Well he has about the same first touch as the likes of Jason Roberts who sits on 76, but perhaps both could be raised to around the 78 mark.

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby Brezza » 2009 Feb 06, 19:26

Yeah theres no way his technique is this bad, especially if you look at the way he took the ball down for his goal agaisnt Newcastle this season. Id personally swap his and Emile Heskey's technique around. Emile has the first touch of a baby elephant.

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Feb 08, 01:02

"When God made Didier Drogba, Heskey must have been one of his earlier attempts!" Back on topic, though! I agree with Technique. Carlton has a good first touch. I always feel he's been an under rated and under used striker. Clearly needed the confidence and now he's banging them in.

I don't think strikers like him, Jason Roberts and Darren Bent are appreciated enough.

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby Paddy » 2009 Feb 08, 01:04

Alcohomicide wrote:I don't think strikers like him, Jason Roberts and Darren Bent are appreciated enough.


100% agree here.

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby kendees » 2009 Feb 08, 19:03

Why is his Dribble accurary rated so low? :o high 70's could be much better, I'd suggest 78 for the moment.

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby BigStu » 2009 Aug 13, 09:50

Dribble Accuracy: 80 or 80
he really has improve on this front he is very good a dribbleing when he is holding the ball up
Shot Accuracy: 79 he has got more accurate at shooting
Shot Power: 84 he hits them hard
Shot Technique: 82 he can score some quite skillful goals from difficult angles and golas that re just difficult to score technique wise
Technique: 81 his first touch has improved
Mentality: 84 he works slightly harder now

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby eroadnero » 2009 Aug 13, 10:03

Jump: 85 very very good

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby Nrby » 2009 Aug 23, 13:51



not a bad take at all :) ... just to make a stats conversion ... that's what I rate as Shot Technique + Shot Power and a decent Technique for the good touch :)

... you good people can check the Defoe thread in a few min to see his passing skills :lol:

EDIT: as an official proposal I would go for a 6 at least for WFF ... he has no hesitation in using his weaker foot

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby deity86 » 2009 Oct 19, 20:44

Edited height + weight, +1 for each.

Nrby wrote:EDIT: as an official proposal I would go for a 6 at least for WFF ... he has no hesitation in using his weaker foot
I agree, he's pretty effective with it also.

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby BigStu » 2010 Mar 01, 19:00

Name: Carlton Michael Cole

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Club: West Ham United
Number: 12
Position: CF*
Nationality: English _eng
Age: 26 (09/11/1983)

Foot: R
Side: B

Length: 191
Weight: 78

Attack: 83
Defence: 42
Balance: 88
Stamina: 84
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 82
Response: 83
Agility: 80
Dribble Accuracy: 80
Dribble Speed: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 75
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 73
Long Pass Speed: 73
Shot Accuracy: 81
Shot Power: 83
Shot Technique: 81
Free Kick Accuracy: 66
Curling: 77
Header: 84
Jump: 83
Technique: 80
Aggression: 85
Mentality/Tenacity: 82
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 80

Injury Tolerance: B
Form/Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 6
Consistency: 6

CARDS:
P21 – Fox in the Box

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Attack/Defence Mindness Card : Attack Minded

Attack
A slight raise here, Cole is great at positing himself in the box, he is quite a predator in front of goal and is very good at psoitoning himself for a ball into the box during set pieces or open play for that matter, he currently sits level with players who use strength or pace mostly to beat defenders in the box, Coel, whilst strong and very capable of outmuscling defenders he also uses positioning, I like to think of him, no disrespect intended as a poor mans Didier Drogba. 83 puts him level with Ivan Klasnic and Dirk Kuyt which seems perfect, though I have reservations about him sitting level with RVP (Though he is player who I rate as an 84 so whatever)

Defence
Again another slight tweak, this just that I don't seen him as level with Craig Bellamy defensively

Acceleration
Again another slight tweak, I just don't think his burst is that 'bad', this puts him level with marlon harewood, a fair value IMO

Response
A more signfiicant raise here, currently cole is level with walcott, donovan, and ghilis, layers who while can certanly react reasonably quickly have pace advantages so don't need to react that fast where as carlton doesn't have the pace, and still IMO reacts as fast as players like darren bent, pavychenko and crouch

Agility
If Adebayor can sit on 82, with 2kg less weight than carlton, I do not see how carlton, while admittidly less agile than him, can sit 4 pts lower than him, the gap between them without the weight issue isn't much more than 2 pts, and with the gap in weight a 2 pt gap seems fair

Dribbling
Agian I am going to use adebayor as an example, again there is 4 pt gap, but as before I do not think there is a pt gap in ability, and looking at the ladder 79/80 seems fair, though some players on 80 give me reservations, so do some on 79 so.....

Short Passing
While I do not doubt cole passing is excellent for a CF target man, I do not think hes on pare with decent midfilders such as diaby or behrami (77) or even milner (76), speed however can go up a point so he is level with keiron dyer in both

Shooting
This is an are where he has definwtly improved as he has become not only more a composed finsher but also more confident one though he still misses the occasional easy chance he tends to put most away and has an eye for the spectaculor finish, and his goal records has improved dramatically, in 07/08 he scored 6 in 37, 08/09 12 in 32 and this season he currently has 9 in 20, 80 puts him below real goal scorers such as agbonlahor and nevland but above uncomposed finshers like steven fletcher and adebayor, though I do have reservations about him being on 80, as 81 seems okay as well so I'd like to hear more opinions, onto power, he certainly can wack them (as his volley vs spurs showed) and if agbonlahor and crocuh can have 83, I do not see why he cannot have 83 as well. Finally onto ST, as I have said he has an eye for the spectacular goal and can score from quite tight angles, again he is level with agbonlahor which seems fair,

Heading
Simple one really, in my opinion he is as good as pavychenko on 84 and better than adebayor, also on 84

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby WHUfan » 2010 Mar 01, 19:20

Couldn't really argue with any of your explanations, agree with all i think :D

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby MarcusAurelio » 2010 Mar 01, 19:28

In the overall picture, yes, I agree to these.

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Re: Carlton COLE

Postby Paddy » 2010 Mar 02, 04:21

Some of the changes you've made are minimal, if not most are. I'd rate his shot accuracy as better than this as would I rate his jump. I'm wondering whether or not you completely agree with the given valuation for aggression...

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