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Sergio Pellissier

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 11:41

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby Oriello » 2010 Jan 09, 20:15

Apologies GoonerLover66 I was not trying to make it 'sound' (over the vacuum of cyberspace :lol: ) like you were handing out 7/8 willy nilly.

The Lampard and J. Zanetti I think might be more in line with the vaunted A/8 double, than just Conditioning alone as reference markers. I think people just tend to grab for the first idea when it comes to a particular stat, and naturally the players you listed tend to highlight the best and most identifiable charcteristics of those areas and the most immediate contrasting benchmarks.

The 5-6 Consitiong well I have played those, using Heracles in the dutch league I think I had a few players like that, and I played them hell or high water, i.e. game 20+ Stamina depleted by first half, easily being injured due to the accumilated fatigue bar, they only got to rest when they got +RED injuries. :lol: I mean it was not ideal with such a small squad, but it felt a bit real that my best players could not give it their all the entire season and the team was siginificantly affected, I ended up abandoning an all pressing and attacking game, to just sitting back and absorbing in hopes of retaining the smallest fumes of energy left in their bodies for the final third of the season and limping to the title. :lol:

This whole issue, is sort of also down to me trying to 'ladder' the players accordingly, as per example you have Lampard/J. zANEETTI OR EVEN pELE, who played backin the 60's about 70 games a season sometimes, well when you have extremes like that it is difficult to have some players come close yet there exist a siginificant gap in the statisitical data, I know it seems as an easy opt out but I do blame Konami for not broadening and strenghting the Conditioning values to a 1-10 scale , like really whe 8? what culture uses a mathemateical baiss of 8? and the rest of the game is near 10 unit basis of 1-99, why not 1-10..well anyways sort of my issue is like I highlighted on that evo web where sometimes one might respect the ladders too much - as with the PES engine ideally playing 30+ games with a 'realistic' fatigue level (more akin to real life players) 8 would be the average for most players. I think that is what happens in the Bundesliga where Monkevski rates in accordance with how the player performes with the engine rahter than global ladders as much. As A and 8 are far more common in that league than in Serie A,.

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby zuo » 2010 Oct 13, 03:25

I just have not read the rest of the suggestion after i read IT:B ... Pellissier is one of the forwards more deserving the A in the world.
in the head-to-head knock with Chivu, chivu had to be carried away to the hospital with ambulance....
and Pellissier got his way back to field whilst his coach wanted to substitute him... also he's always fit. he play injured too sometimes.
he missed 14 games in 6 Seasons..... i am just reading lower 10 points Defence? he's one of the *CFs that most helps the defence....

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby Ace » 2010 Oct 13, 21:39

zuo then what about COND 8? In last 3 seasons he played 35/38 (he missed 1 match because of disqualification, in total 3095/3420 minutes), 38/38 (3095/3420 minutes, almost all), 37/42 (3076/3780 minutes, and he missed a match because of disqualification), Also in previous 3 seasons he played 36/38, 34/38 and 34/38, to me he's clearly above the 7 and he's ready to get an 8 (the numbers I posted show an average of 35,6 matches every year in last 6 years).
Another idea I have in my mind is about CONS 7: in his whole career he was always an "honest and modest" player, constantly ready to help the modest team that's Chievo, my opinion is that he's above 6 (that's probably the average value in Serie A).

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby zuo » 2010 Nov 21, 20:11

was wondering could be his Jump value higher? in the chivu incident was jumping higher than him chivu is 184 and around an 80 Jump. 9 cms are more influent than a 7 yellow jump value expecially when chivu has also +4/+5 BB and 5 kgs. again in today's goal outjumped Santon who's 187 cms (+12) but hadn't responded well.....
check his goal in Chievo Inter 2-1 21.11.2010.......currently has -8 BB -4 kgs -3 cms and -3 Jump from Puyol. ok, Barça's captain is a monster in the air for his height (and for being a CB at that height)...but Pellissier could be somewhat compared to the CB cause he's playing CF and fighting in the air 100% - Every Time - taller(and heavier) opposition. can't recall any CB smaller than 176(tuma martinez) in the serie A....

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby Ace » 2010 Nov 21, 22:56

zuo wrote:can't recall any CB smaller than 176(tuma martinez) in the serie A....

Cordoba, he's 173 ;) Anyway, I don't know if you analyzed my previous suggestion about COND, but rethinking on it I start to have doubts, because maybe with the combination A-8 (maybe) ingame he will be able to play 38/38 so consider this suggestion freezed. But the suggestion about CONS is still valid :)

EDIT: Isn't he a good candidate for Chasing Back?

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby Epsi » 2011 Apr 15, 09:53

Added []Chasing Back and []Goal Poacher + Condition 8..

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby demoneye » 2011 Apr 17, 14:25

Main skills of Pellissier are speed and accelleration. 84 and 82 are a too low for him. I suggest: Top Speed: 87 Acceleration: 86

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby muradkaa » 2011 Dec 29, 07:27

Why IT: A? In the season 10/11 he got injured
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/sergi ... _5928.html

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby MrEskola » 2012 Jan 01, 17:03

Well, ok. B would be correct. He's over 30, so there will knocks more often than he's use to.

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby Epsi » 2012 Jan 05, 20:28

lowered IT. Damn, this set is 3-year old and it's still accurate. Chapeau jason

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby Epsi » 2012 Apr 08, 14:11

made some tweaks.

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby Epsi » 2012 May 07, 14:30

lowered speed and TW. As to the latter, I would like to hear some opinions about it... since Il Pelli is mostly out of the game so according to what we know he should sit on a lower value for tw..

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby čale » 2012 May 07, 14:55

seems quite nice now, regarding TW, he's a true poacher with minimal participation in the build-up play...i believe that something along the lines of 74/75 would be nice.

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby zuo » 2012 May 07, 16:45

absolutely disagree with 74 TW. he's Still an out and out striker
and does offre quite a lot of movement overall , not quality one maybe,
but he moves around even defending.....and he isnt actually selfish.
he needs anyway a good stars+atk+def+TW+agg combo to be replicated....
Also imo he isnt a 1-1 scorer at all , yet a *scoring style type of striker with not great shooting stats

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby Epsi » 2012 May 07, 16:52

My first purpose was to highly lower his shooting stats with []1-on-1 scoring, or as an alternative, keeping the same shooting stats without any star/card. You know, he can be actually deadly while facing the keeper and he rarely misses the target.. but yet he's been incredibly inconsistent this season. *Scoring can be an option.. but do you think it is enough to reproduce his style?

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby MrEskola » 2012 May 08, 14:02

His TW shouldn't be THAT low, cale. At least 76, would be on par with Cristiano Ronaldo I think.

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Oct 18, 13:00

TW should be even higher. Honestly I can't believe he's under Cavani in this. Pellissier is far from being a selfish striker and has a supportive role upfront.
TW could reach 79 or even 80.

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Re: Sergio PELLISSIER

Postby zuo » 2012 Nov 13, 01:34

he needs some tweaks....he isnt by any means a 1-1 scoring.....
Needs *scoring and possibly an 81/82 SA.
Attack @83 is Still good for Now....imo could Still use higher Mentality.

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Re: Sergio Pellissier

Postby Epsi » 2012 Dec 07, 19:11

is he really this agile?

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Re: Sergio Pellissier

Postby MrEskola » 2012 Dec 09, 16:25

Don't think he is, but of course I'd like to hear more opinions.

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