Ledley KING

[Caelumamittendum]

[qwertyfinger]

Speed could go even lower, the guy can hardly move anymore. Relies solely on positional sense, reminds me of a poor mans Paul McGrath

[BigStu]

He cant move because the more strain he puts on his knees the more pain he wakes up with the next day

[qwertyfinger]

He cant move because the more strain he puts on his knees the more pain he wakes up with the next day

Yet he has 80 for TS?

[BigStu]

When he wants to hes one of the fastest defenders in the league

[qwertyfinger]

When he wants to hes one of the fastest defenders in the league

When I want to eat a sandwich I eat one, it doesn't mean I eat them consistently, nor does it mean I can do it more than most of the times, what you've just said is the reasons for form, and arrows in game, he doesn't deserve these values from consistently viewing them.

[irwinp]

I think the one that needs changes are the form, which should be 3 or 2, considering his knee, and also his stamina, as 84 is way too much for a defender with no cartilage in one knee.

[Vranny]

I think the one that needs changes are the form, which should be 3 or 2, considering his knee, and also his stamina, as 84 is way too much for a defender with no cartilage in one knee.

Agree with the Condition drop. I've had him on Condition: 3 in my OF for ages.

[Mr. Evans]

Agree with bringing down Condition.

[Gugu]

Well I've given him the 2 for condition.. has to be the worst in the league, I mean he's lower than Kieron Dyer at Cond 3 and Ledley deserves to be lower.

[Vranny]

I was thinking the same thing the other day after looking at some other players with poor condition values. I'd also love to try playing a PL/ML season with Tottenham and giving him Condition: 1 to see how it would work, but I'm in the middle of another ML season atm.

[Mr. Evans]

Probably still among one of the top three CBs in the league despite the constant fitness issues.. unbelievable. Very consistent as well (why did Konami have to merge Condition and Consistency ).
Speed stats need changing though, very very slow of the mark and his TS should sit like two points lower.

[BigStu]

he showed a couple of games ago his previous 84 value for ts.........though acc should go way down

[Mr. Evans]

Seriously? Saw some slow runs of him.. Best to not touch TS then and only change ACC then.

[BigStu]

he doesn't go all out that often, in case his knees give up, which is understandable in his case

[Mr. Evans]

Which is why we need to go with the value he shows most. Giving him a value he hardly shows would be unrealistic as it would be on constant display in game.. It's definitely understandable but we need realism.

[alawadhi3000]

Stamina needs a huge decrease also, he's pretty much static.

[MocaBG]

I'm so happy for him. This must be his record. Like how many games in a row?

[Mr. Evans]

Him playing regularly this season gave me the opportunity to rate him well and I think he could use a few changes. Followers of the PL all know King is a world-class defender but he hasn't been able to play regularly for years due to fitness issues.
I think his DEF should sit higher but his RES lower. His positional sense is fantastic. He's constantly at the right spot at the right time, making blocks and attackers really have a hard time outsmarting him. Vidic is probably the only defender in the league better than him in this. But he's not this quick to react. He definitely has good reactions but not at the level of a 86 imo. I suggest DEF 89/RES 84.

His BAL is too high imo. He's definitely a strong guy but the current value combined with his height and weight makes him too powerful. I think he should come down to a 86, which would still make him a very strong defender.
STA, like alawadhi, said needs to come down for sure. And his speed stats need to come down too. Very slow to accelerate, can't see him sitting over a 74. While I think his TS would be better suited to a 78/79. AGI also needs to come down to like a 75/76, his current 78 is just too much.
MENT needs a big boost though. He always remains cool and he's a true leader. Tottenham always look a much better side with him playing. He also keeps playing for Tottenham even though he's seriously struggling with his fitness and still manages to constantly produce top performances, even when the going gets though. Definitely an orange value.

So to sum up:
DEF: 89
BAL: 86
STA: 79/80
TS: 78/79
ACC: 74
RES: 84
AGI: 75/76
MENT: 91/92

[Steven Gerrard]

I agree with MR: Evans.
But Res: 85.

[Paddy]

Ability wise he's the best CB in the league, pity about his knees.