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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby julgui » 2011 Oct 07, 20:21

Change new format.

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Mar 14, 16:58

Positions WB and SM were added, since he's playing regularly on those.
I'm thinking about switching ATT and DEF, since he has better offensive positioning than the defensive one (ATT 72 DEF 68).

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Joak » 2012 Mar 14, 17:43

MaxPower wrote:Positions WB and SM were added, since he's playing regularly on those.
I'm thinking about switching ATT and DEF, since he has better offensive positioning than the defensive one (ATT 72 DEF 68).


He is really good joining in atack, better than a 72 imho...
Def isn't for a 68, must be something like <65

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Mar 14, 18:40

Yep, we switch ATT/DEF, and then we can increase the gap between both of them.
For ATT I'd go for 73 (at least as good as José "Firulais" Contreras, but I also think that player deserves a decrease in ATT).
About DEF, I suggest 66 (Magalhaes is not better than Matías on this).

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Mar 14, 18:46

For what I've seen of him in international matches he seems a good prospect, a shame that he didn't play too much here. He seems a little Clemente Rodriguez by sometimes, tireless with good vision and teamwork to open spaces...but in defence he isn't really good. 73-64/65 looks better to his att-def ratio for what I've seen and I'd like to ask if he deserves a better aggression, he likes to go forward constantly and have active participation in attacking movements. Please fix his age ;)

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Mar 14, 19:12

I don't know why, but now I can't update changes in the editor.
Just give some time, when this problem gets solved.

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Mar 14, 23:21

I can't fix age yet, but ATT, DEF and AGG were updated anyway.

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Akron » 2012 Mar 24, 01:00

Can i say that his attack should be much better than 73? He looks like a real striker sometimes and his capacity is very high. Some time ago he defends a lot and very nice but now he makes a lot of fouls which say me that he needs that 65 in defense and a even low Response but more Mentality to defend more. But if we low his Response it doesn't make sense with his incredible capacity in attack which say me again that he deserve even less Defense but more Response. Stamina at 86 is some low for him he can run and run and he play every week 2 matches without any problems.

I have some doubt whit his Dribbling skills. I have to watch this better.

To me his shoting abilitys are a little better. Like 71/82/73

If i have to select some value to change without your interference i'll make it with Jump and Header what make this guy a moster.
To me:
Header: 83/84
Jump: 86 (HE win every aerial battle in enemy's area)

Aggression: 90 Like Dani Alves and way less even when i think that Matias is more active attacking than the Barca's player.

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Reverend » 2012 Mar 24, 01:19

It's to overrates these values, I propose: HEA: 80 - JUMP: 84 - SA: 70 - ST 71 - TECH: 80 - BAL: 79 - RESP: 81 - Aggression it's fine (82 Is higher than some Strikers).
And his DEF it's too lower i see it in 70

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Giovinco14 » 2012 Mar 24, 01:54

i agree in all, but DEF can be 69 he is a lot more offensive than deffensive

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Reverend » 2012 Mar 24, 01:57

that's because is the position you have been using, but at some point played CB and SB in line 4 defenders and did very good, demonstrating good defensive security

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Akron » 2012 Mar 24, 20:25

WTF.
82 in Agg for MR you must be crazy. Is not the same for a Striker. You should know that.

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Mar 24, 20:47

It depends on the kind of striker you are treating actually. Target men (aka Post Players) usually have relatively low AGG; they will stand more often outside the 18-yard, flicking the ball or holding up the ball. On the other side, pacy and poacher-kind strikers are more aggresive.

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Giovinco14 » 2012 Mar 24, 22:26

i have mati in 85 of agression. when he goes to attack looks like dani alves :D

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Akron » 2012 Mar 24, 23:38

In several plays Matias finish in opponent's box making a lot of goals for a SB or WB. I think he can be like Dani Alves in that aspect even when Dani Alves doesn't score that much.

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Mar 25, 02:37

He goes forward often, right.
But with AGG>=90 would need very high Stamina as well (good examples are Pablo Armero and Christian Maggio from Udinese and Napoli respectively. Both with very high AGG and STA).
I'll try with AGG 88 STA 88 combo in a test. I highly encourage all of you to do the same and reveal your results.

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Akron » 2012 Mar 25, 04:40

I don't doubt he deserves 88 or 90 in Stamina anyway.

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Giovinco14 » 2012 Mar 25, 13:00

88 sta and 88 agg would be an interesting combo ;)

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby xeneize » 2012 Mar 29, 16:15

is going to be called for the _arg NT
is a surprise, really happy and anxious to see him play with argentina

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Re: Matías RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Mariano_11 » 2012 Mar 29, 16:25

presumably, it would be looking Boca and looking for "revenge" because it is the lower divisions of Boca...

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