Come on guys, these are posts that anger the mods. I don't want to pooh-pooh on the party but we're trying to get the final tweaks tweaked so we can lock zer thread till zummer.
Ever since I tested Pelé I've really had a problem giving players who play in roles where they also like to run with the ball and link up with more self-orientated 1-2's TW over 85
. Some players when rated over 85
start not wanting to travel with the ball with the ai. They only want to pass and though it doesn't always happen, it's worth testing. TW is a value that must be tested, I really don't think you can give it a theoretical value.
For long passing, that suggestion makes sense and it's something that does in game what it says on the tin, so to speak. If no one has problems with that then it should be okay in my opinion. I also agree with jump 80
but I'm not sure about a value for ST. Clearly Paddy has opinion on it so maybe he has a value in mind but I do agree he shouldn't be level with Arshavin, although I'd personally up him to 87 and put Rooney on 84
level with Rosicky and Owen. 85
would put him with Lampard, Tevez and Gerrard, although like I said I'm actually not 100% on this and maybe it wouldn't be unfair to put it with them. I'm pretty sure he's in the 84
sort of territory though. It's just where. Certainly has shown on occasion that he can strike nice clean shots and from angles, so -if- he were to be lowered I don't think you could be too harsh. Just... Arshavin level? That seems a bit high considering how amazing Arshavin is at striking the ball cleanly, and also scoring from tight touch-line area angles and even when surrounded by players. I am not even using the 4-4 with Liverpool as an example here either.
"When we were winning leagues and European Cups at Real I always said Makelele was our most important player. There is no way myself Figo or Raúl would have been able to do what we did without Claude and the same goes for Liverpool and Gerrard."