Patrice Evra

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Patrice Evra

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 17:59

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This world-class left-back looked a fish out of water shortly after signing in at Manchester United from Monaco in the autumn of 2006, but he quickly conquered his Anglophone demons and now needs no lessons from anyone. Adventure and dynamism personified, he has the engine to dominate his flank from first minute to last. The son of a diplomat from Guinea, he was born in Senegal. After his father was posted to France, the young 'Pat' was brought up in the suburbs of Paris, where got to know a certain Thierry Henry. On failing to make the grade at Paris Saint-Germain, the teenage Evra went into exile in Italy at lower league Marsala and Monza, then returned to France to star for Nice and Monaco. Evra was an out-and-out attacker in his formative years and only became a left-back when a spate of injuries forced Nice coach Sandro Salvioni to use him in that more reserved role. He has not looked back since and played in ten of Les Bleus' 2010 World Cup qualifiers.


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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby quincy_huang » 2009 Jan 13, 23:18

Vandeach wrote:I'm not sure he fully understands how a SB's response works(tbh neither do I) I feel that its a generic update because Evra's a Man Utd. player and should therefore have the highest response for a registered SB on the database! I also suggest a decrease Aggression as he doesn't attack as much as say Mendy who sits on an 83(although he should be 85) I also highly doubt he deserves the *Long Throw star.

for SB, i believe repsonse works for..
1. how quick the SB react when an opposite player go/try to go pass him
2. how quick the SB response to the opposite ball passing /loose ball where there is around him
3. how quick the SB make the tackle when it's possible to make one

i think that pretty much..

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby quincy_huang » 2009 Jan 13, 23:20

manutd wrote:I forgot to add response
I think it's way underrated
Imo 87/88 response

completely disagree here :ugeek:

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby quincy_huang » 2009 Jan 13, 23:25

fishdalf wrote:Agreed., to an extent. Here's more what the ladder should look like...

Bosingwa 87
A. Cole 85
Mendy 85
Evra 84
Degen 84


If it's me
i would put it like..
Bosingwa 86
A. Cole 85
Mendy 85
Clichy 85
Evra 84
Degen 84[/quote]

same order, slightly less on bosingwa and add clichy

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby imi » 2009 Jan 14, 09:07

i dont know why he has *Long Throw.
why u think his Agg should be 84 or 85?
didnt u say that many times he go for attack like SM?
realy u think A.Cole should be higher or on pair by him?
no i dont think his fine on 87 but Bosingwa should go up also can one point more than Evra.

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby manutd » 2009 Jan 14, 11:28

Ok but at least 84
And who agrees to this?
manutd wrote:@imi
2 points isnt a "huge" update
SO...
8 consis
89 DS
88 agi
81 men
88 jump
?


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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby PMC » 2009 Jan 14, 11:48

manutd wrote:Ok but at least 84
And who agrees to this?
manutd wrote:@imi
2 points isnt a "huge" update
SO...
8 consis
89 DS
88 agi
81 men
88 jump
?


No

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby manutd » 2009 Jan 14, 11:49

PMC wrote:
manutd wrote:Ok but at least 84
And who agrees to this?
manutd wrote:@imi
2 points isnt a "huge" update
SO...
8 consis
89 DS
88 agi
81 men
88 jump
?


No

What do u agree and disagree with?

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby PMC » 2009 Jan 14, 11:57

manutd wrote:What do u agree and disagree with?



I didn't see every game of Utd. so I can hardly rate his consistency... I just know that he didn't look good against Romania in the qualifiers

89 DS sounds not bad but I'm a bid unsure... its debatable but not unrealistic, I just dont know if he really deserves to be ahead of so many wingers in this aspect

agility 88... this would make him the most agile sideback in the game... I sincerly dunno if I can agree with that value... in comparison to players with similar characteristics it might be unfair towards other players

mentality 81... sounds okay

jump 88... the only players to have jump in such a region are those are incredible in this aspect... I'm not so sure about this either

I find it amusing that everyone wants to update his favourite team and improve every player... soon we'll have half the players on PES in the 90s :roll:

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby manutd » 2009 Jan 14, 12:04

PMC wrote:
manutd wrote:What do u agree and disagree with?



I didn't see every game of Utd. so I can hardly rate his consistency... I just know that he didn't look good against Romania in the qualifiers

89 DS sounds not bad but I'm a bid unsure... its debatable but not unrealistic, I just dont know if he really deserves to be ahead of so many wingers in this aspect

agility 88... this would make him the most agile sideback in the game... I sincerly dunno if I can agree with that value... in comparison to players with similar characteristics it might be unfair towards other players

mentality 81... sounds okay

jump 88... the only players to have jump in such a region are those are incredible in this aspect... I'm not so sure about this either

I find it amusing that everyone wants to update his favourite team and improve every player... soon we'll have half the players on PES in the 90s :roll:

Well I'm not really sure about those either since their imi's
All I'm wondering is 8 consistency and 84 response

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby quincy_huang » 2009 Jan 14, 14:31

PMC wrote:
manutd wrote:What do u agree and disagree with?



I didn't see every game of Utd. so I can hardly rate his consistency... I just know that he didn't look good against Romania in the qualifiers

89 DS sounds not bad but I'm a bid unsure... its debatable but not unrealistic, I just dont know if he really deserves to be ahead of so many wingers in this aspect

agility 88... this would make him the most agile sideback in the game... I sincerly dunno if I can agree with that value... in comparison to players with similar characteristics it might be unfair towards other players

mentality 81... sounds okay

jump 88... the only players to have jump in such a region are those are incredible in this aspect... I'm not so sure about this either

I find it amusing that everyone wants to update his favourite team and improve every player... soon we'll have half the players on PES in the 90s :roll:

i like ur last sentence :mrgreen:
back to business..
disagree with DA and agility
compare it with clichy and a cole
u will know wht i mean

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby Nathan18 » 2009 Jan 14, 19:00

I don't agree with the majority of suggestions.

I agree that aggression is too high. I don't think it should be more than Bosingwa. Coming down by 2 would be pretty fair. I also agree that Long Throw should be removed. I remember saying that ages ago. I also STILL think that his LPA is too high. He put in a fantastic ball against Chelsea, but he plays very few with that much quality. I agree that response could be a little higher, though. One higher.

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby Paddy » 2009 Jan 14, 19:05

Nathan18 wrote:I don't agree with the majority of suggestions.

I agree that aggression is too high. I don't think it should be more than Bosingwa. Coming down by 2 would be pretty fair. I also agree that Long Throw should be removed. I remember saying that ages ago. I also STILL think that his LPA is too high. He put in a fantastic ball against Chelsea, but he plays very few with that much quality. I agree that response could be a little higher, though. One higher.


I agree here, would you agree on

Long Pass Accuracy: 79 => 76
Long Pass Speed: 81 => 84

this still get the ball into the are and give in decent crosses just moreso based on speed than accuracy, which really, is how he does it, 76 is a good number imo as he doesn't hit them great but he can hit them well now and then

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby imi » 2009 Jan 14, 19:34

@DS 89
he can be on pair by Clichy because Evra is like Clichy and their speed by ball is near without ball
Agility 88
i said i'm not agree becaue for me he isnt more agiler than Clichy
Men 81
really he desrves it also can be 82
Jump 88
he is just 175 but can jump over many tall players

removal *Long throw

yes Res 83 and LPS 76 is fair but his LPS i dont think can go up.

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby Paddy » 2009 Jan 14, 19:37

why not?

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby umphreys11 » 2009 Jan 14, 20:00

I agree with those Paddy, he crosses a lot like Nani, powering them in hard hoping someone can get something on it rather than trying to pick out someone's head.

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby quincy_huang » 2009 Jan 14, 22:51

imi wrote:@DS 89
he can be on pair by Clichy because Evra is like Clichy and their speed by ball is near without ball
Agility 88
i said i'm not agree becaue for me he isnt more agiler than Clichy
Men 81
really he desrves it also can be 82
Jump 88
he is just 175 but can jump over many tall players

removal *Long throw

yes Res 83 and LPS 76 is fair but his LPS i dont think can go up.

thats better suggestion..agree

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby TheTrueSeto » 2009 Jan 15, 08:45

imi wrote:@DS 89
he can be on pair by Clichy because Evra is like Clichy and their speed by ball is near without ball
Agility 88
i said i'm not agree becaue for me he isnt more agiler than Clichy
Men 81
really he desrves it also can be 82
Jump 88
he is just 175 but can jump over many tall players

removal *Long throw

yes Res 83 and LPS 76 is fair but his LPS i dont think can go up.


That sounds better probably, I agree, but as for LPA, I think he could be 77 since Belhadj has 78 and I don't think he is 2 points away from someone who shares some qualities with him, but thats just my opinion anyway

Agree for LPS increase. Paddy pretty much summed it up

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby manutd » 2009 Jan 15, 15:34

Any1 for 8 consistency? :?:

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby fishdalf » 2009 Jan 17, 07:43

Can we get some more discussion on the aaggression stats please?

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Re: Patrice EVRA

Postby imi » 2009 Jan 17, 08:20

fishdalf wrote:Can we get some more discussion on the aaggression stats please?

why not, what do u think?

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