Luis Antonio Valencia

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Luis Antonio Valencia

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 17:23

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Valencia joined Manchester United in June 2009 for a fee believed to be in the region of £16 million from Wigan and impressed in his first season at Old Trafford with a number of assists and seven goals for the club.

The right winger began his career with CD El Nacional in his native Ecuador and having made his international debut in 2005 in a 5-2 World Cup qualifying win against Paraguay - marking the occasion by scoring two goals - he was snapped up as a 19-year-old by Spanish side Villarreal for £1.2 million. But after failing to break into the Yellow Submarine first team, he was loaned out to Recreativo Huelva as he adjusted to football in Europe. In 2006, his performances at the World Cup caught the eye and Wigan signed him on loan for the following season.

The Ecuador international spent three years with Wigan Athletic, initially on loan for 18 months before sealing a permanent switch in January 2008. An impressive campaign in 2007-08 saw him linked with moves to Liverpool and United as he became one of the most important players for the Latics. Another consistent season followed and having been tracked by United manager Sir Alex Ferguson for some time, the Red Devils beat off reported competition from Real Madrid to sign the winger.

He made his debut for United in the 2009 Community Shield and netted his first goal against Bolton Wanderers in October 2009, keeping a frustrated Nani out of the team or at least consigned to his unfavoured left-wing position for much of the season thanks to a series of lively performances. He will likely be a key figure once more in United's 2010-11 campaign.

Strengths: Pace in abundance and a direct approach have made the Ecuadorian one of the most-feared wingers in the Premier League. His ability to find Wayne Rooney's head from pinpoint crosses was the source of many a goal for United in the 2009-10 season.

Weaknesses: A tendency to over-complicate things and not deliver the early ball can frustrate, while his defending leaves a little to be desired. Needs to add more goals to his game.


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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Paddy » 2009 Jan 17, 11:26

but they all have higher defensive ratings so that would make them better at them aswell.

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Jan 18, 09:58

Now thats an interesting discussion, who would be better at performing slides Bramble with *Sliding or Maldini without.

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Paddy » 2009 Jan 18, 12:04

make a thread on it will you? I can't and I think its worthy of discussion and testing.

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby JuveJoffre » 2009 Apr 03, 17:12

So, is he going to Liverpool ,Manchester United, or Real Madrid??

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby avantsweater » 2009 Jun 14, 19:36

These stats look really accurate to me. Except LPA looks little bit too high if I am honest. His crosses can be very inconsistent.

(I have seen him play almost every game for club and country for the past 3 years.)

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Tom » 2009 Jun 15, 07:47

avantsweater wrote:These stats look really accurate to me. Except LPA looks little bit too high if I am honest. His crosses can be very inconsistent.

(I have seen him play almost every game for club and country for the past 3 years.)


His crosses and long passes are the very reasons that comparisons were drawn between him and David Beckham. You're right, his crosses have been mercurial this year, but so have the crosses of David Bentley and Ashley Young, so where do you draw the line?

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby avantsweater » 2009 Jun 15, 09:15

GoonerLover66 wrote:
avantsweater wrote:These stats look really accurate to me. Except LPA looks little bit too high if I am honest. His crosses can be very inconsistent.

(I have seen him play almost every game for club and country for the past 3 years.)


His crosses and long passes are the very reasons that comparisons were drawn between him and David Beckham. You're right, his crosses have been mercurial this year, but so have the crosses of David Bentley and Ashley Young, so where do you draw the line?


His crossing has always been erratIc, I think you are confusing Ryan Taylor and Valencia.

Bruce was was talking about Ryan Taylor when mentioning Beckham-esque delivery about a year ago.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport-old/football/2007/12/29/bruce-taylor-is-new-beckham-115875-20268298

I've never heard anyone compare Valencia to Beckham though.

I personally think Young is better than both Bentley and Valencia for delivery as he usually ends up with about twice as many assists. Granted Valencia was delivering to Heskey and Marcus Bent for long stretches so not the most clinical striker duo, but his crossing consistency is his major weakness in my view.

Bentley obviously tanked this year but Valencia didn't get near either player assists wise the last three seasons combined.

(According to ESPN Soccernet Stats)

A. Young 06-09
G 22 A 35

Bentley 06-09
G 16 A 16

A. Valencia 06-09
G 7 A 9

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Tom » 2009 Jun 16, 10:06

No I'm not confusing him with Ryan Taylor. Throughout the '06 World Cup, commentators referred to him as the "Ecuadorian David Beckham" because of his pin-point crossing at both a club and international level and he hasn't wholly proved that to be wrong whilst at Wigan. But yes, his long passes have been at times mercurial, but that doesn't mean that he warrants a drastic decrease.

Furthermore, I wouldn't use such statistics if I were you, on that basis Nicolas Anelka would have to have high passing values due to him being one of the Top 10 Assist leaders in Premier League history. :lol: Moreover, you can break down those statistics further and it'd make every Long Passing stat we've given look stupid. Take David Bentley as an example, he made 11 assists in the 07/08 season yet made around 200 crosses.

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Paddy » 2009 Jun 16, 14:18

I really think Ryan Taylor is incredibly overrated at crossing. Valencia has always been the better of the two imo.

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby avantsweater » 2009 Jun 18, 10:28

For crosses from the byline I agree Valencia is better.

I guess we'll see next season at Man Utd how he plays!
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby s-cobar » 2009 Jun 18, 10:30

avantsweater wrote:For crosses from the byline I agree Valencia is better.

I guess we'll see next season at Man Utd how he plays!
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will he move to ManUtd ?

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Ken » 2009 Jun 18, 11:00

s-cobar wrote:
avantsweater wrote:For crosses from the byline I agree Valencia is better.

I guess we'll see next season at Man Utd how he plays!
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will he move to ManUtd ?


Wigan are to hold a meeting with both Real Madrid and Man Utd about his transfer. :)

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby danifer91_15 » 2009 Jun 29, 16:46

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby avantsweater » 2009 Jun 29, 20:28

danifer91_15 wrote:http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8FA%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB069%2D3F7A2F35DB70%7D&newsid=6635301



That's just a 'paper talk' column on the man utd site.

The deal should be done by the end of the week though I assume.

Shame to see him go, he's a fantastic player.

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby The_Red_Devil » 2009 Jun 30, 19:36

Nani = Michael Jackson

Valencia = Jermaine Jackson

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Jun 30, 23:25

The_Red_Devil wrote:Nani = Michael Jackson

Valencia = Jermaine Jackson

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Evra = Tito Jackson. :lol:

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby deity86 » 2009 Jun 30, 23:30

Put a pair of dark shades on Anderson and you've also got Stevie Wonder ;)

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Jez » 2009 Jul 01, 02:16

deity86 wrote:Put a pair of dark shades on Anderson and you've also got Stevie Wonder ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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