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Luis Antonio Valencia

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Paddy » 2009 Jan 17, 11:26

but they all have higher defensive ratings so that would make them better at them aswell.
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Jan 18, 09:58

Now thats an interesting discussion, who would be better at performing slides Bramble with *Sliding or Maldini without.
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Paddy » 2009 Jan 18, 12:04

make a thread on it will you? I can't and I think its worthy of discussion and testing.
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby JuveJoffre » 2009 Apr 03, 17:12

So, is he going to Liverpool ,Manchester United, or Real Madrid??
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby avantsweater » 2009 Jun 14, 19:36

These stats look really accurate to me. Except LPA looks little bit too high if I am honest. His crosses can be very inconsistent.

(I have seen him play almost every game for club and country for the past 3 years.)
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Tom » 2009 Jun 15, 07:47

avantsweater wrote:These stats look really accurate to me. Except LPA looks little bit too high if I am honest. His crosses can be very inconsistent.

(I have seen him play almost every game for club and country for the past 3 years.)


His crosses and long passes are the very reasons that comparisons were drawn between him and David Beckham. You're right, his crosses have been mercurial this year, but so have the crosses of David Bentley and Ashley Young, so where do you draw the line?
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby avantsweater » 2009 Jun 15, 09:15

GoonerLover66 wrote:
avantsweater wrote:These stats look really accurate to me. Except LPA looks little bit too high if I am honest. His crosses can be very inconsistent.

(I have seen him play almost every game for club and country for the past 3 years.)


His crosses and long passes are the very reasons that comparisons were drawn between him and David Beckham. You're right, his crosses have been mercurial this year, but so have the crosses of David Bentley and Ashley Young, so where do you draw the line?


His crossing has always been erratIc, I think you are confusing Ryan Taylor and Valencia.

Bruce was was talking about Ryan Taylor when mentioning Beckham-esque delivery about a year ago.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport-old/football/2007/12/29/bruce-taylor-is-new-beckham-115875-20268298

I've never heard anyone compare Valencia to Beckham though.

I personally think Young is better than both Bentley and Valencia for delivery as he usually ends up with about twice as many assists. Granted Valencia was delivering to Heskey and Marcus Bent for long stretches so not the most clinical striker duo, but his crossing consistency is his major weakness in my view.

Bentley obviously tanked this year but Valencia didn't get near either player assists wise the last three seasons combined.

(According to ESPN Soccernet Stats)

A. Young 06-09
G 22 A 35

Bentley 06-09
G 16 A 16

A. Valencia 06-09
G 7 A 9
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Tom » 2009 Jun 16, 10:06

No I'm not confusing him with Ryan Taylor. Throughout the '06 World Cup, commentators referred to him as the "Ecuadorian David Beckham" because of his pin-point crossing at both a club and international level and he hasn't wholly proved that to be wrong whilst at Wigan. But yes, his long passes have been at times mercurial, but that doesn't mean that he warrants a drastic decrease.

Furthermore, I wouldn't use such statistics if I were you, on that basis Nicolas Anelka would have to have high passing values due to him being one of the Top 10 Assist leaders in Premier League history. :lol: Moreover, you can break down those statistics further and it'd make every Long Passing stat we've given look stupid. Take David Bentley as an example, he made 11 assists in the 07/08 season yet made around 200 crosses.
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Paddy » 2009 Jun 16, 14:18

I really think Ryan Taylor is incredibly overrated at crossing. Valencia has always been the better of the two imo.
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby avantsweater » 2009 Jun 18, 10:28

For crosses from the byline I agree Valencia is better.

I guess we'll see next season at Man Utd how he plays!
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby s-cobar » 2009 Jun 18, 10:30

avantsweater wrote:For crosses from the byline I agree Valencia is better.

I guess we'll see next season at Man Utd how he plays!
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will he move to ManUtd ?
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Ken » 2009 Jun 18, 11:00

s-cobar wrote:
avantsweater wrote:For crosses from the byline I agree Valencia is better.

I guess we'll see next season at Man Utd how he plays!
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will he move to ManUtd ?


Wigan are to hold a meeting with both Real Madrid and Man Utd about his transfer. :)
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby avantsweater » 2009 Jun 29, 20:28

danifer91_15 wrote:http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8FA%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB069%2D3F7A2F35DB70%7D&newsid=6635301



That's just a 'paper talk' column on the man utd site.

The deal should be done by the end of the week though I assume.

Shame to see him go, he's a fantastic player.
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby The_Red_Devil » 2009 Jun 30, 19:36

Nani = Michael Jackson

Valencia = Jermaine Jackson

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Jun 30, 23:25

The_Red_Devil wrote:Nani = Michael Jackson

Valencia = Jermaine Jackson

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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby deity86 » 2009 Jun 30, 23:30

Put a pair of dark shades on Anderson and you've also got Stevie Wonder ;)
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Re: Luis Antonio VALENCIA

Postby Jez » 2009 Jul 01, 02:16

deity86 wrote:Put a pair of dark shades on Anderson and you've also got Stevie Wonder ;)

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