Andy Carroll

Moderators: Jez, BigStu, vinnie, Mod's

Andy Carroll

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 10, 07:34

Image



User avatar
PES Stats Database
 
Posts: 9855
Joined: 2008 Dec 09, 12:06
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 117 times

by »



 

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby ynwasg8 » 2011 Dec 22, 22:03

@Mr Evans I agree for you to go lower.

Image
User avatar
ynwasg8
 
Posts: 342
Joined: 2011 Oct 17, 03:05
Location: Belgrade, Serbia
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby messixavi » 2011 Dec 30, 22:48

Techique could go a point lower,his first touch is consistently poor.

messixavi
 
Posts: 59
Joined: 2011 Oct 21, 05:00
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby buszmen » 2012 Jan 03, 21:55

His BAL should be little lower, 1 or 2 points.

User avatar
buszmen
 
Posts: 2188
Joined: 2010 May 13, 10:55
Location: Wrocław, Poland
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 46 times

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby jurgens » 2012 Jan 04, 06:11

Needs a big drop in agility.

The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.

LeMisérable wrote:im not mad, why should I be mad just because of you, your nothing, 1 in 7 billion, i mean dude
User avatar
jurgens
 
Posts: 8349
Joined: 2009 Jul 19, 15:33
Has thanked: 840 times
Been thanked: 546 times

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby Tom » 2012 Jan 04, 09:23

jurgens wrote:Needs a big drop in agility.


Don't think he ever deserved this value, tbh. Even by previously dated PSD valuations of agility. Carroll could do with a decrease to a 70 in Agility, perhaps 1 lower. He turns like a bloody oil tanker.

I'm also sceptical of his Aggression value. He always seems to be too deep whenever a ball is played over the top, and he never seems to be in space when Liverpool players are in advantageous crossing positions. It's clear that this isn't due to some tactical role that Dalglish is applying him, Carroll doesn't have that level of footballing knowledge. Carroll's role is clear cut and linear; to put "heads on crosses". And he isn't doing that and it seems like an amalgam of shoddy positioning and incredibly slow off the ball movement (slow everything tbh).
Personally, I'd like to call drops for his Acceleration, by about 2 points and a review of his Attack and Team Work values.

Also, as someone has said, his Balance is far too high. By comparison, I can't really see why he's above Dzeko.

Last edited by Tom on 2012 Jan 04, 10:54, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Tom
 
Posts: 2533
Joined: 2008 Dec 09, 15:18
Location: Swansea
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 7 times

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby BigStu » 2012 Jan 04, 09:57

Done and downgraded a few other areas

BigStu
 
Posts: 7562
Joined: 2009 May 28, 16:43
Location: England
Has thanked: 39 times
Been thanked: 97 times

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby bjk_melo_151 » 2012 Jan 04, 11:18

Now, Andy could be a new amateur footballer. He can go to bridge for suicide him.

κάθε πρόσωπο που είναι ένας κόσμος. káthe próso̱po pou eínai énas kósmos.
User avatar
bjk_melo_151
 
Posts: 530
Joined: 2008 Dec 10, 12:01
Location: Mersin
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby ynwasg8 » 2012 Jan 04, 23:33

Andy is argubaly the best striker of premier league of all time.He is good in the air,strong,power header,and also has good positioning and also a LETHAL STRIKE...WTF not talking about this Sh*tty Carroll who should play in the championship was talking about andy COLE.

PS I suggest 69 agility for Caroll it looks more realistic anyone agree's with me ?

Image
User avatar
ynwasg8
 
Posts: 342
Joined: 2011 Oct 17, 03:05
Location: Belgrade, Serbia
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby Jez » 2012 Jan 05, 00:15

bjk_melo_151 wrote:He can go to bridge for suicide him.

:lol: Steady on son!

ynwasg8 wrote:Andy is argubaly the best striker of premier league of all time.He is good in the air,strong,power header,and also has good positioning and also a LETHAL STRIKE...WTF not talking about this Sh*tty Carroll who should play in the championship was talking about andy COLE.

He's publicly requested in the past to be called 'Andrew Cole', not Andy. Which is quite funny as it reminds me how in the new PES, the commentator says "Andrew Carroll" which I have never heard him referred to as in reality :lol:

"DEBT IS THE ROAD TO RUIN" David Gill August 2004

My blog is back, check it out! www.mybeautifulgame1.wordpress.com
User avatar
Jez
 
Posts: 3848
Joined: 2009 Feb 23, 00:51
Location: Ingerland
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 18 times

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby Mr. Evans » 2012 Jan 05, 17:52

Jez wrote:Which is quite funny as it reminds me how in the new PES, the commentator says "Andrew Carroll" which I have never heard him referred to as in reality :lol:


It drives me crazy :lol:.

I think his RES is harsh. His weak positional sense and lack of intelligence is what causes him to not get into the right areas but he does react pretty quickly to then eventually get back into the right position, though sometimes it's too late. I'd lower his ATT to a 78 and raise RES to a 81.. or keep ATT on 79 and raise RES to 80.

And his ST should sit under his SA imo. I don't see what he does to deserve a 80. ST 77 for me, maybe 78 with a possible SP raise. Don't understand why his AGG is so low though? Wouldn't a 83/84 be more accurate.
Some other small changes:
ACC 75
AGI 69

thor34 wrote:JUMP: 80/81/82. Digestible methionine and leap up to splice the header. From what I saw the half-length coat will easily to Angeleri.
Mr. Evans
 
Posts: 2821
Joined: 2010 Nov 03, 10:58
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 7 times

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby tasmin » 2012 Jan 06, 04:54

the true thing is that he is still recovering from the injury and hasn't yet get to his full fitness.that is one point.

and other his he is struggling of liverpools playing style . in which he needs to move a quite lot and needs a better link up with his team-mates.something like stand in space to receive a ball and than passed it to his team-mates in the right position.meanwhile he needs to go into right position quickly which he is lacking.

anyway i would reduce his TW below 70 mark,something like 67 maybe.his link up has been shit and that is what looking so ugly.

vamos arriba la celeste !
User avatar
tasmin
 
Posts: 2078
Joined: 2010 Jul 26, 04:14
Location: Out of this world
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 9 times

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby ynwasg8 » 2012 Jan 06, 22:32

I think his TW is not that but but his SPA is he usually has the vision to find his teamate but his passing isnt accurate enough to link-up with him.
Another thing is that his shooting stats are too generous here.

Image
User avatar
ynwasg8
 
Posts: 342
Joined: 2011 Oct 17, 03:05
Location: Belgrade, Serbia
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby cell_destroyer » 2012 Jan 28, 13:21

What the hell happened to him... These are some really poor stats for a starter. I'd rather have Heskey in my bench then him right now : l

User avatar
cell_destroyer
 
Posts: 58
Joined: 2010 Nov 24, 12:09
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 3 times

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby eric7 » 2012 Jan 31, 17:33

He's really poor in RL that's for sure... But, he definitely should have a higher stat for BB... He's very strong. Just look at his last match in PL. He woned several duels with defenders with great ease... 87 would be much better. Same for his SP. Maybe he could have 87 for sp.

User avatar
eric7
 
Posts: 45
Joined: 2011 Aug 28, 02:26
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 11 times

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby Pumpernikiel » 2012 Feb 07, 02:11

I think he doesn't deserve such bad stats, 84 in balance? 80 aggression? Come on, at least he tries, so mentality could also go up :D I bet you guys are too harsh for him cause of astonishingly (too) high transfer fee. Watched his game with Tottenham and he wasn't terrible - well his shooting sucks but header, balance, positioning are pretty good, even had few interceptions.

Pumpernikiel
 
Posts: 336
Joined: 2008 Dec 20, 12:40
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby tomaster » 2012 Feb 07, 02:32

Pumpernikiel wrote:I think he doesn't deserve such bad stats, 84 in balance? 80 aggression? Come on, at least he tries, so mentality could also go up :D I bet you guys are too harsh for him cause of astonishingly (too) high transfer fee. Watched his game with Tottenham and he wasn't terrible - well his shooting sucks but header, balance, positioning are pretty good, even had few interceptions.


Ballance good? What? He's weak like a little child, even vs Tottenham he fall down all the time.

tomaster
 
Posts: 678
Joined: 2009 Jun 25, 17:45
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby Pumpernikiel » 2012 Feb 07, 19:05

tomaster wrote:Ballance good? What? He's weak like a little child, even vs Tottenham he fall down all the time.


I really wouldn't say he is weak... he rather deals with other teams defenders with no problems. Maybe Liverpool's tactical system isn't suitable to his abilities. With all due respect to Liverpool players, watching a match with Tottenham it was hardly to notice a good, accurate long ball from wingers, or Gerrard.

Pumpernikiel
 
Posts: 336
Joined: 2008 Dec 20, 12:40
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby Jorchking » 2012 Feb 07, 21:48

Shot accurracy below 70. He is very bad to make a goal.

¡RIQUELME EL MEJOR!
User avatar
Jorchking
 
Posts: 25
Joined: 2012 Jan 20, 07:15
Location: Argentina
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby Pumpernikiel » 2012 Feb 09, 23:38

Jorchking wrote:Shot accurracy below 70. He is very bad to make a goal.


DUDE! no one sane would spend 35mln pounds for such a skill!



Pumpernikiel
 
Posts: 336
Joined: 2008 Dec 20, 12:40
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Re: Andy CARROLL

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Mar 15, 03:48

wow, I remember reading in German papers about him last year. He was praised as the new Alan Shearer and savior of the Three Lions etc bla bla. At transfermarkt.de he's listed with 17mio € market value. What happened to him that he has such crappy stats, typical one-hit-wonder?

User avatar
Malakayi
 
Posts: 2214
Joined: 2009 Jul 15, 21:04
Location: Elmpt, West Germany
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 5 times

PreviousNext

Return to West Ham United FC

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests