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Marcos Cáceres

Postby PES Stats Database » 2010 May 16, 02:26

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby jorgecavs » 2010 Nov 12, 20:19

vickingo_73 wrote:
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manoloxcr17 wrote:PD: A la mierda, es mejor que Papa, Cubero, Domínguez y Ortiz entonces. :shock:

Marking, Sure than Papa and Ortiz. They aren't Pique and Lucio xD jajaja.


jej , but Velez has the best defensive system after Estudiantes. :lol:
What you think this?
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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2010 Nov 12, 20:47

Why you change you mind all the time? I think 75 is enough for him as he is SB.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby jorgecavs » 2010 Nov 12, 20:52

manoloxcr17 wrote:Why you change you mind all the time? I think 75 is enough for him as he is SB.


Yes, but also plays like CB, and there to balance a bit as things.
Their defense is certainly green.
Defence: 75-77

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2011 Jan 30, 20:36

Changed to the new format, changed the main position and updated the stats with more real values. ;)

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby jorgecavs » 2011 Mar 07, 04:33

The Stats are based on the default position, then the other positions may influence little in their final stats.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Oct 02, 23:20

Dribble Accuracy: 74
Dribble Speed: 76

Mmm, today made some proyections in attack with MORE than decent speed, he surpassed many times Ferreyra with the ball by more than 15 metres, so his control of the ball in speed could go up, he sucks dribbling, but he does it quickly.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby jorgecavs » 2012 Sep 28, 13:10

He is having a good level, is playing as RB, and goes to attack very often, his play Any thoughts have changed 180 degrees.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby Paablito » 2012 Sep 28, 13:52

jorgecavs wrote:He is having a good level, is playing as RB, and goes to attack very often, his play Any thoughts have changed 180 degrees.

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Here is a clear example of bad luck of Racing, :lol:
Totally agree Jorge, Martino it's a beast, it is radically transformed.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Nov 10, 00:44

Vs Quilmes. Wow really, the worst player of the team by far. He's so non-technical, really he mistrapped so easy balls many times. Also his DA sucks as well as his general passing. He's good at spend stamina and probably at aggression, but still imho isn't nothing special.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby jorgecavs » 2012 Nov 10, 02:32

Vickingo wrote:Vs Quilmes. Wow really, the worst player of the team by far. He's so non-technical, really he mistrapped so easy balls many times. Also his DA sucks as well as his general passing. He's good at spend stamina and probably at aggression, but still imho isn't nothing special.

Vs Quilmes. I agree he is a player with poor technique, but had a decent game, totally different to what it was before now seems a RB very aggressively, very involved in attack, although he was rather inaccuracy today. I notice a good TS but very low ACC, also good stamina.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Nov 14, 14:47

Given a parcial update then, I just couldn't stand his original position as CB.

PS: Jorge, can you find an HD pic for him?

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby jorgecavs » 2012 Nov 15, 18:49

New pic and fixed the shirt number and age. ;)

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Re: Marcos Cáceres

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Jul 04, 13:43

He raised a lot his level, yesterday he seemed Cafú's son...showed really nice dribble, speed and crazy stamina though.

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Re: Marcos Cáceres

Postby KeyserSoze » 2013 Jul 04, 13:52

Is Aw 1/3 a typo problem or was it on purpose?

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Re: Marcos Cáceres

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Jul 04, 13:57

Amazing the level of this player, is other person..

KeyserSoze wrote:Is Aw 1/3 a typo problem or was it on purpose?


This stats are of 1 year ago, he increase his level incredibly, is a new player, in Raci#g played really bad.

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Re: Marcos Cáceres

Postby lucashag » 2013 Jul 04, 15:36

KeyserSoze wrote:Is Aw 1/3 a typo problem or was it on purpose?


There are still many players outdated in Afa in Atk/Def Awarness, that's why.

Jó without ronaldinho is as useless as larry flint's legs.
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Re: Marcos Cáceres

Postby Lumia » 2013 Jul 12, 16:48

I just saw him playing in Libertadores, but i want to share some notes from him:

I was impressed with Newell's performance against Atl.Mineiro in the first leg. The whole played at really high level, would sound a bit crazy or exaggerated but Martino used Barca system, their classical 4-3-3 with Caceres and Casco playing as Alves and Alba with the support of delightful Mateo playing ala Busquets being the anchor man. Caceres and Casco owned the side where the game was decided, there was the key of Newell´s being almost perfect that night.

i. ATT I noticed that Caceres wasn’t so retarded as first value suggest for ATT, I think that he should be at higher level and on the other hand his DEF value is high. In my opinion, both values should be switched but he has CB as secondary position and I don’t know how often he is used there and with my value he would be too bad.
ii. I recall higher AGG as well, for me he needs a yellow value (82) and specially he needs a higher ATT/DEF awareness, just taking Libertadores he should sit at 3/3.
iii. More than his defensive abilities I think he is good at responsiveness, making good coverings and reacting fast. Don’t suggesting a higher value just wanted to remark it.
iv. Considering a small boost on his DA (+2) can be safe too. Overall he needs a review. :P

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Re: Marcos Cáceres

Postby Paablito » 2013 Jul 12, 21:45

Lumia wrote:i.ATT I noticed that Caceres wasn’t so retarded as first value suggest for ATT, I think that he should be at higher level and on the other hand his DEF value is high. In my opinion, both values should be switched but he has CB as secondary position and I don’t know how often he is used there and with my value he would be too bad.

Imo he needs a review in his ratio on ATT/DEF, but I don't if he deserves same values as Peruzzi, is good in attack, but the actual value represents well to he, one or two points more would not affect his game. If something would have to increase, would his Att. Awareness: 2.
For now it wouldn't be wrong to think about switching to ATT: 70 DEF 66.

Lumia wrote:ii.I recall higher AGG as well, for me he needs a yellow value (82) and specially he needs a higher ATT/DEF awareness, just taking Libertadores he should sit at 3/3.

If AGG refer to AGGression, same thing I said before: If something would have to increase, would his Att. Awareness: 2.

But if AGG refer AGGility I'm don't here with you, Cáceres is a clear example of a SB without agility, 82 sounds really exagerated, imo is more decente values in ACC DA than a good value in AGG. Namely has good ACC to do "fasters" dribblings, but look how slow turns or changes direction thats the EP.
Lumia wrote:iii.More than his defensive abilities I think he is good at responsiveness, making good coverings and reacting fast. Don’t suggesting a higher value just wanted to remark it.

Indeed.

Lumia wrote:iv.Considering a small boost on his DA ( 2) can be safe too. Overall he needs a review. :P

Indeed. Same level as Marin/Caire (74) or Cubero/Pillud (73).

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Re: Marcos Cáceres

Postby Lumia » 2013 Jul 15, 13:54

Dear Paablito,

With AGG, i was referring to aggression. For agility/explosive power, i use AGI or EP (lately).
In old-gen games we don't have ATT/DEF awareness that's why i suggested a raise there.
Seems wii have a similar view about Caceres notwithstanding following him just in Libertadores, i'm almost pleased with your suggestions.

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