Frank Lampard

[Mr. Evans]

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[deity86]

I see where you're coming from on that side of it, but as I said I do feel apart from the whole "1st time shots" thing he is quite decent at turning away from danger a bit quicker than this.

[jmg721]

Here I will bring up the Serie A ladder, because I just spent hours updating it.....Here are some of the people who sit at 79,78,77

79: Marcelo ZALAYETA, Cristian CHIVU, Francesco TOTTI, Paul CODREA, Rolando BIANCHI

78: Marco MOTTA, Andriy SHEVCHENKO, ADRIANO, Claudio MARCHISIO, Júlio BAPTISTA, Daniele DE ROSSI, Simone PERROTTA, Angelo PALOMBO

77: Cristiano DONI, Esteban CAMBIASSO, Nicolás BURDISSO, Jonathan ZEBINA, Marco BORRIELLO, Francesco COZZA, Matteo BRIGHI, Cristian PANUCCI, Alberto AQUILANI, Phillipe MEXES, Gökhan İNLER

I tried to pick out the most well-known players. Looking at this, are you comfortable with saying he should be at 79?

[deity86]

Honestly, I can't judge too much on Serie A players as I don't get to watch the league nearly enough.. but looking at that I'm thinking maybe 79 may be a step too far.

[HitMan]

ive seen him twisting and turning pretty nicely a few times, even though on average he isnt very agile, but the value is 79 its quite a small value and i think he is about a 79

[Paddy]

Well Gay

[vicecity]

LMAO

[deity86]

Is this new team bonding? Look at Gabby in the background, he's really getting into it

[Rfuna]

too much gayness in this forum. Who's Gabby sticking it to... Gerard?

[jmg721]

My "Response Revolution" post has gotten well barried over the past 4 months. Looking at the global ladder there was talk of moving him up to an 89, and Brezza agreed.

[HitMan]

his speed was never his strong side ... and even if he is speedy he rarely uses it on the field ... attack positioning and reaction are leftovers from when he broke that record for goals scored by a midfielder ... fact is that he is much better at attacking and finishing than a lot of EPL strikers ... in the English squad he has stated that he has to come over his attaching way in order to be able to play the role that he is asked to ... because of better physical attributes (and close technical ones) Gerrard was given the more offensive role but given the choice he would be a full pledged AM ... now *Positioning could be removed as I have recently been promoting the idea that the star should be only for players that are good at set pieces ... players like Cahil for example ... it's up for discussion and I am not fully convinced of what I am talking about here

Nrby's thoughts on Lampard, but hes not willing to come in with his suggestions just yet

anyway removal of *positioning and attack decrease should be the main focus for now, att:82

[Brezza]

Attack should not come down. His intelligence in the final third to evade his markers and his overall positioning is better than the majority of strikers in the premiership as is his finishing.

*Positioning could be removed if were stressing that players should only get it if there good at getting on the end of set pieces, but the fact of the matter is that he takes the majority of set-pieces himself so he doesn't really get a chance

[lfc 4 eva]

Why is he so slow. He isn't the quickest guy in the world but hes quicker than Xabi Alonso, he seems about par with Fabregas to me.
TS 78 ACC 79

[HitMan]

Why is he so slow. He isn't the quickest guy in the world but hes quicker than Xabi Alonso, he seems about par with Fabregas to me.
TS 78 ACC 79

Attack: 82 (-3 he has *positioning and *reaction, attack this high just overrates him IMO)
BB: 83
TS: 78
ACC: 75
Agi: 79
DA: 81 (imo he is on par with yaya toure in DA)
DS: 76
header: 75
LPA: 87

my point is his attack + *positioning and even *reaction overrates him, and makes him better than ALOT(too many) strikers..

so its either the attack value goes down, or remove the *positioning.. but hes well underrated in other areas..

[lfc 4 eva]

Thats the thing though with the stupid way Konami have done the stats. Whats the difference between ATT 85 + *pos and ATT 95?

[pob26]

Attack: 82 (-3 he has *positioning and *reaction, attack this high just overrates him IMO)
BB: 83
TS: 78
ACC: 75
Agi: 79
DA: 81 (imo he is on par with yaya toure in DA)
DS: 76
header: 75
LPA: 87

agree with all but i'd keep attack where it is and remove positioning

[BiG TeL]

Attack: 82 (-3 he has *positioning and *reaction, attack this high just overrates him IMO)
BB: 83
TS: 78
ACC: 75
Agi: 79
DA: 81 (imo he is on par with yaya toure in DA)
DS: 76
header: 75
LPA: 87

Absolutely agree with all.

I would also increase his FKA to 79.

[Angel of Death]

I disagree only in attack, I think 82 is a bit harsh, maybe 83-84 is better

[BigStu]

Could he have *sliding? ive noticed lampard makes a lot of tackles and he almost always gets the ball

[lfc 4 eva]

Could he have *sliding? ive noticed lampard makes a lot of tackles and he almost always gets the ball

Not for me. I don't think he is good enough at sliding tackles to deserve it.

[Alcohomicide]

Could he have *sliding? ive noticed lampard makes a lot of tackles and he almost always gets the ball

What, like the one where he snapped Alonso's ankle?

Nah, that was an accident, but still, Lampard does give away quite a few fouls from sliding challenges. I don't think he warrants this as his timing doesn't seem as good as you say it is, but I'd be interested to know what Gooner thinks about it.

EDIT - I think should be given an update. I mean BB for a start is under rated, it was touched upon a few posts back.