Frank Lampard

[Mr. Evans]

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[Yowza]

OT: Happy birthday, Lamps > age 31.

[renatomm]

here in Brazil he's still 30 hehehehehe
8pm here

[Alcohomicide]

Can WFF be 7? He's always looked so comfortable on his weaker foot. If he's in a position where it's best to use it he'll use it. Many shots he could turn onto his right but happily used his left and it's the same for passing and trapping.

Of course, I can't give you exact statistics of every pass and trap like I'm apparently supposed to, but my eyes tell me he's above 6.

[pob26]

no i don't think so. he's pretty good with his left and the 7 in WFA reflects that. he still much prefers his right though, and sometimes opts to use the outside of his right boot instead of his left so i thinki 6 for WFF is well rated.

[BigStu]

could he have outside? or doesn't he use it enough to get the star? and his shot power should be raised a point or 2

[TheBackedUpOne]

I really think his ST is underrated

[Alcohomicide]

no i don't think so. he's pretty good with his left and the 7 in WFA reflects that. he still much prefers his right though, and sometimes opts to use the outside of his right boot instead of his left so i thinki 6 for WFF is well rated.

Which PES do you play?

I really think his ST is underrated

I think it's okay. It's on a par with Gerrard and 1 above Arshavin (Who I am hoping will go up to 85 next season) and those two are legends of ST too.

It's also two points above Scholes.

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could he have outside? or doesn't he use it enough to get the star? and his shot power should be raised a point or 2

He could be 90 as I think he hits the ball no weaker than Huddlestone and I think a point above Rooney is fair.



Don't see why he should be behind Ronaldo who I believe is on 90 either...

[Vandeach]

I do actually believe that Huddlestone and Ronaldo shots contain more ferocity than Lampard's. Rooney hasn't shown his immense power for a long time now, but when he gets back to form, I think he'll justify him being on par with Lampard.

[Alcohomicide]

I do actually believe that Huddlestone and Ronaldo shots contain more ferocity than Lampard's. Rooney hasn't shown his immense power for a long time now, but when he gets back to form, I think he'll justify him being on par with Lampard.

Are you sure? I mean Ronaldo's long shots often hang where as Lampards almost break the net. :\ I'm not saying you're wrong here, I just... wanna be sure that you're sure...

[Vandeach]

Of course I'm sure, there are numerous times when Roanldo's shots almost break the net, remember his strike against Porto in the CL? His free-kick from 30 odd yards against Portsmouth a couple of seasons back, he definitely has that sort of breath-taking power in his shots.

[deity86]

I agree with Vandeach here, at least comparing him to Huddlestone who can spank a ball with tremendous venom, that's not to say Lamps can't. Ronaldo is probably more of a difficult one in the fact that he generates so much swerve that it can appear to the eye that it's not been hit so hard when it's moving all over the place.

[Alcohomicide]

Of course I'm sure, there are numerous times when Roanldo's shots almost break the net, remember his strike against Porto in the CL? His free-kick from 30 odd yards against Portsmouth a couple of seasons back, he definitely has that sort of breath-taking power in his shots.

Oh, I know that. I'm not saying Ronaldo's never done it, but aye, usually I guess the swerve makes them look less Torpedo-like in comparison to Lampard.

As for TH I don't think he consistently gets that kind of power like Lampard does but I won't disagree cause we're only talking 1 point here. It's good we've discussed it so if it comes up again we can say it's already been discussed.

[deity86]

I think the problem with Huddlestone is that he doesn't get enough playing time to form a consistent run, which would obviously give him more of a chance to showcase his ability.

[N3KR0]

Stamina: A player who can last 90 minutes reguarly.
the only time lampard got replaced in a match was the crazy game against Bolton so ..
I think lampard is very very very underrated in term of stamina, he has played all chelsea games, i dont remember him missing a match, fa cups, carling cups, epl games, champions league, he played them all if i recognize.
i dont see why he cant have a '' god like '' stamina, gerrard has 95 , and he missed a lot of games this season for liverpool due to injury and Daniel Alves has 98 i think.
lampard's main strength is his stamina, so this will sound crazy to some but i think he should have 97 like the classic lampard in the Contemporary Players ..
read this if you're intrested >>
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editor ... ea-season-

[Alcohomicide]

Gerrard could probably be 94 stamina. He's too close to Essien.

[N3KR0]

i agree.
but what about Lampard?
do you agree on 90?

[Vandeach]

I personally don't see anything wrong with 90, it indicates that he has fantastic energy levels and doesn't get tired. I don't think it needs to be raised much(a couple of points if anything) because Lampard doesn't go full out running for an entire 90 minutes ala Essien, Gerrard, Dani Alves etc. so it'd be unfair to put him in the god region for stamina, imo.

[N3KR0]

you have a point there, but still lampard deserves to be in the god region imo, he has played all chelsea matches this year, i dont know about gerrard and dani alves but i bet they cant play every 90 minutes a season, and i also think mentality plays a big role for these players to run for 90 minutes .. if im not mistaken

oh yeah and lampard have been substituted twice not once this year, 1st at the bolton game and second the away match against barca.

[TheBackedUpOne]

did you see what he did to Seedorf's foot today ??
totally deserves 90 SP

[N3KR0]

Another point ...
Does anyone think he deserves higher TW?
Like hes all over the pitch, he makes everything for chelsea, he moves the team, seriously if Lampard misses a game (rarely does) you can see how the team can get affected, seriously chelsea play really bad without him, the whole team depends on him !
You can see him start the counter attacks, you see him everywhere in the pitch, he makes tackles in the midfield and takes the ball and make a pass and then returns to his possition, so i dont see why the likes of Fabregas and Gerrard are over him?