xeneize wrote:a questions, Nacho was not agree with that about speed is overrated? just after my last comment
also COND need go down no?
jorgecavs wrote:81 Víctor ZAPATA
vickingo_73 wrote:Zapata Konami's value is 75 and I pretty much agree, despite being some charismatic and being a leader, he is in the field, and with a good level of stamina he won't need more than green's. I watch Dominguez/Ortiz really far from him.
jorgecavs wrote:Víctor ZAPATA: he is a born leader, in and off the field, is currently the second captain of the squad, behind Cubero. It's pure commitment and sacrifice, it never affected in big games, always juice at the same level, and STAM under a lot this season, as almost every game was replaced. But we can go down to 1 point, leaving Ortiz up, but I'm not sure.
vickingo_73 wrote:I know that things, but you are not understanding the concept entirely imho. I see Dominguez far better than him in this aspect, are different opinions, but giving him so high value is a mistake. Btw, we could discuss it in his thread, but again: to be captain doesn't mean that you're a mental leader. I repeat about Francescoli's example...and don't come to my mind now but for sure there are tones of them. Zapata is more sta>ment imho, but we can disagree obviously. What i'm saying is that you should understand Teo's concept before stablish others. It's more clear example that we can have. Read again gotaa's examples and thoughts. And no, sometimes I don't understand your english and seems that you don't read the whole post before or you don't understand entirely mate, just seems.
jorgecavs wrote:Now I understand what you are referring to Zapata. You see much lower in the hierarchy of leadership on Dominguez and Ortiz, and it is true but not so low, the mental strength of the "Chapa" is more than anything in the ability to overcome fatigue and raise performance in adversity. In the above two points is much better than Ortiz and Dominguez. Remember that Velez played important matches against more powerful teams of the continent, where he always reached final stages, and then died standing. Those are the words to the "chapa" is a player that if has to lose, die standing, the only one that is better than him is Cubero in the squads in this regard.When in the field are Cubero, Dominguez, Ortiz and Zapata the team is one of the most solid of the continent, experienced players who are not afraid of anything and has over 1000 battles in his career between 4.
They are the 4 main heads of squads, and 4 are as mentally tough as the other, but some in different ways.
PD: I hope you can understand, I made an effort to better my English.
jorgecavs wrote:against Rafaela was the absolute leader of the team, now that I could look even better, constantly reproaching attitude of Seba and Ortiz, was the maximum leader of the team. In addition he had an excellent game the team putting on the shoulder. With the absence of Cubero could be seen clearly who took command of the team, but still wearing the captain's armband on his arm. Btw hand its TW was noted very high, moving constantly to get the ball, much like Erviti but less frequently.
nachogr28 wrote:jorgecavs wrote:against Rafaela was the absolute leader of the team, now that I could look even better, constantly reproaching attitude of Seba and Ortiz, was the maximum leader of the team. In addition he had an excellent game the team putting on the shoulder. With the absence of Cubero could be seen clearly who took command of the team, but still wearing the captain's armband on his arm. Btw hand its TW was noted very high, moving constantly to get the ball, much like Erviti but less frequently.
Yes, and I noticed his TS higher too (like in the past). IMO should be yellow. On the other hand his Balance could be -1...
jorgecavs wrote:Vs Lanús. Seems to be the best player on his team, despite not making a great game, was the most trying attack and lift the team, but he only could not. Most of the game seemed a DMF and the second half a CMF, but when he gave up, again a DMF. came close to scoring and be the hero of the team, but his shot, which was very powerful, crashed off the crossbar.
jorgecavs wrote:Got used to playing in a team technical and offensive for long, it seems that it will cost to find their level, but I see that attitude puts to change the situation but does not help the team, all very static and few ideas.
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