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Carlos Vela

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 10:54

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby pedala robinho » 2009 Sep 23, 18:47

To be honest, I also think he should have SS* as registered position. He isn't the type of player that plays centralized, he likes to play floating in the around the box. So, I think the best for Vela is:

Position: *SS*, WF, CF, SM

And I would also agree with SP: 81.

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby qwerty » 2009 Sep 23, 18:48

i think carlos is a players that derserves around 90 in agility.. hes has more agility then samir nasri who has 89.. i would even go for an 91-92..

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby pedala robinho » 2009 Sep 23, 18:54

Well, if Walcott comes down to 92, I also think a 91 wouldn't be bad for Vela.

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby qwerty » 2009 Sep 23, 19:00

I think he even got better agility then walcott.. but he needs an agility-update for sure!

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby CatDevil » 2009 Sep 23, 21:37

I think the agility would be fine in 92, just as Walcott as i cant really see much difference between them.

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby pietja » 2009 Sep 24, 06:23

Would it be strange if we'd also consider giving him 1-1 scoring at such young age? His type of finishers seem to suit the star very well, he scores a lot of goals from 1 on 1 situations, he always times them good.The quality of his chip shots is also first class.

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby Angel of Death » 2009 Sep 24, 19:04

Agility could be 90

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby pedala robinho » 2009 Sep 24, 22:25

I also believe he should be faster than 85, I have something like 86~87 in mind. It would put him on pair with Zárate or Messi, what I think is pretty fair.

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby Angel of Death » 2009 Sep 25, 05:09

Agree with pedala

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby Oswaldo » 2009 Sep 25, 08:57

I know we now raising Vela to sky :lol: but I also think his TEC can be boosted by 1-2 points(84-85).. he really has good first touch and control on the ball..IMO his mate in NT Giovani Dos Santos is slightly better than him and now Gio has 86 TEC,Bojan of Barca has 85 ,so 84-85 wouldn't be madness for Vela.



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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby tomaster » 2009 Sep 25, 09:32

You can see good balance in this video, probably better then 78.

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby Oswaldo » 2009 Sep 25, 12:46

tomaster wrote:You can see good balance in this video, probably better then 78.

I was thinking the same :D ..but I'm not very sure...If we raise his AGI to 91-92 then we cannot raise his BB too much.

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby qwerty » 2009 Sep 25, 14:50

Agility 91
TS 86
Technique 85



that should be a good and fair update!

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby pedala robinho » 2009 Sep 25, 17:41

Well, since we are talking about updates here, let's try to analyze the first post stats:

Position: *SS*, WF, CF, SM - He sure isn't a pure poacher, he don't play on the center, inside of the box. He plays pretty much like Alexandre Pato, floating around the box, like a Second Striker.

~> Defence: 40 - I feel this a bit high, in comparison with Pato (who has 36), but I wouldn't disagree with putting Pato at 38 too. Both players that don't stick always close to the box, they back to help the midfielders to construct the attacking moves.
~> Balance: 78 - I would consider one point more, since he's smaller than Pato and has at least the same strength in hand-to-hand combats, who has 78 too. So, 79 would be my number here.
~> Top Speed: 85 - Quite sure he's at least close to players like Messi, Aguero. Even better than Mauro Zárate, but I'd put them on the same value for now.
~> Agility: 88 - Quite sure he's close to Walcott, I'd put at 90~91 by sure.
~> Dribble Accuracy: 82 - Totally sure that he's a lot better than this, probably 84~85 would be better. He can glue the ball at his feet with great accuracy, IMO, in the future, will be even more, if we consider Pato at 86.
~> Dribble Speed: 84 - Again, another value that I'm totally sure that he's a lot better, probably 87~89 would be better. Don't loose any speed with the ball. Close to Pato, who has 90.
~> Short Pass Accuracy: 76 - I would consider a point less here, on pair with Zárate.
~> Short Pass Speed: 77 - I'd put on pair with Zárate two, so, for me, one point less again.
~> Long Pass Accuracy: 72 - Don't have idea, I personally have him at 73, same of Pato.
~> Long Pass Speed: 70 - Don't have idea, I personally have him at 74, same of Pato.
~> Shot Power: 78 - Not the powerful shooter, but still able to put some power on his shots. I'd consider a 81 here.
~> Shot Technique: 82 - A bag of tricks there, he's really good at this aspect. Capable of chip shots, shooting from bad angles and everything. Would put at 83 for now, but sure he'll be better in the future.
~> Technique: 83 - Quite outstanding trapping of ball, capable of putting tricks with easy, would put at 84~85.
~> Agression: 85 - Would consider a point raise, or even two, but pietja gives to me the suggestion of *Reaction. My problem is that Pato has AGG: 87 plus *Reaction star, so I would consider the *Reaction and AGG: 86~87 for Vela.
~> Team Work: 74 - Would put at 76 for now, considering Pato has 77 and isn't any better than Vela in link-up.

So, it would looks like with this:

Name: CARLOS Alberto VELA Garrido

Club: Arsenal FC
Number: #12
Position: *SS*, WF, CF, SM
Nationality: _mex Mexican
Age: 20 (MAR-01-1989)

Foot: L
Side: L

Length: 175
Weight: 72

Attack: 80
Defence: 40
Balance: 79
Stamina: 81
Top Speed: 86
Acceleration: 91
Response: 81
Agility: 91
Dribble Accuracy: 84
Dribble Speed: 88
Short Pass Accuracy: 75
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 73
Long Pass Speed: 74
Shot Accuracy: 80
Shot Power: 81
Shot Technique: 83
Free Kick Accuracy: 64
Curling: 77
Header: 75
Jump: 81
Technique: 85
Aggression: 87
Mentality: 78
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 76
Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 3
Consistency: 6

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
*Dribbling
*Reaction
*1-on-1 Scoring [?]

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby tomaster » 2009 Sep 25, 22:22

Umm balance is still 78 in Your stats... and 1 vs 1 seems to be a good idea for me.

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby pedala robinho » 2009 Sep 25, 22:34

Sorry, it was a mistake :? . As I said:
~> Balance: 78 - I would consider one point more, since he's smaller than Pato and has at least the same strength in hand-to-hand combats, who has 78 too. So, 79 would be my number here.
So, changed ;) !

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby CatDevil » 2009 Sep 25, 22:40

great great work, pedala robinho

about the stats, I agree with all what you say exept:
-I think that his principal position is CF. He's not an Inzaghi type of player, but an Henry like (i mean he isnt a goal poacher but he is definately a goal scorer)
-Stamina: 82
-TW: 77

And of course the *1vs1 scoring suits him perfectly

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby tomi77 » 2009 Sep 26, 07:12

So looks very good with few exceptions for me (stats of pedala robinho):

Top Speed:87~88 - Vela is not slower than Villa and Arshavin.
Agility:92 - it will be closer to Walcott.
Dribble Accuracy:85~86
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency:4

Our strikers didn't scored ( our defender's make more goals :o ,in premiership our club are top goal scorer :shock: ,all score goals without attackers. What the f..k are doing there! what a shame.... ) , at least we can give them some points to make it a PES . :D

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby BigStu » 2009 Sep 26, 08:41

agree with robinho's stats

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Re: Carlos VELA

Postby pietja » 2009 Sep 26, 09:03

me too, good job mate! :)

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