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Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 11, 14:44

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby Brezza » 2012 Jan 16, 16:24

Can't he have even lower agility and maybe dribble speed closer to Konami's values? I know he's massive but he moves like a damn robot most of the time.

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby Tom » 2012 Jan 16, 17:10

Brezza wrote:Can't he have even lower agility and maybe dribble speed closer to Konami's values? I know he's massive but he moves like a damn robot most of the time.


Definitely, thinking the same thing as you. I'm not sure what the exact Konami values are, but I'd opt for an Agility of 68, a Dribble Speed of 67, and an Acceleration value that could be as low as 67.

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby Jez » 2012 Jan 16, 17:12

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby morenol80 » 2012 Jan 16, 21:25

His TECH is also shit, from what I´ve seen.

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby Joak » 2012 Jan 22, 18:11

I think today he had his best game... good positioning...
Also, he show to us he great speed :lol:

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby bssm » 2012 Jan 22, 18:16

He looked like he was moving in slow motion against Welbeck, i was shocked he got the ball off the line.

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby buszmen » 2012 Jan 22, 18:22

bssm wrote:He looked like he was moving in slow motion against Welbeck, i was shocked he got the ball off the line.

But first he lost physical clash with Welbeck (BB 82)

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby Mr. Evans » 2012 Jan 22, 19:23

Yeah I'd really like to take down his BAL by a few points.

thor34 wrote:JUMP: 80/81/82. Digestible methionine and leap up to splice the header. From what I saw the half-length coat will easily to Angeleri.
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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby tomaster » 2012 Feb 14, 15:25

Can someone explain me what the fuck did he do in last game? Major drop in agi maybe? This guy is agile like a brick, can't even turn around!

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby Joak » 2012 Feb 14, 21:03

The grass was very deteriorated, he ¿stalled? (don't
know if stalled is the correct word, really don't know how
say "atascado" in english... used google translator...)
in the grass, and he falls...

Now he's injured....

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby tomaster » 2012 Feb 15, 00:38

Joak wrote:Now he's injured....


That could be the best what happened to Arsenal this season.

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Feb 17, 16:11

tomaster wrote:
Joak wrote:Now he's injured....


That could be the best what happened to Arsenal this season.


That could be the best what happened to Milan this season.

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby Albo7 » 2012 Feb 19, 10:31

Epic comment is epic.

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby tomaster » 2012 Feb 19, 17:31

Malakayi wrote:
tomaster wrote:
Joak wrote:Now he's injured....


That could be the best what happened to Arsenal this season.


That could be the best what happened to Milan this season.


You're saying Vermaelen is worst defender than Mertesacker and that's a lie.

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby CR7 » 2012 Mar 15, 02:16

Re Balance: I recall Welbeck throwing Mertesacker around at the Emirates. With SackofMerte's Height/Weight/BB, wouldn't he be stronger than Welbeck in-game?

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby Karlos3004 » 2012 Mar 18, 18:00

CR7 wrote:Re Balance: I recall Welbeck throwing Mertesacker around at the Emirates. With SackofMerte's Height/Weight/BB, wouldn't he be stronger than Welbeck in-game?


Per reminds me a bit of Peter Crouch, but in defence. His main attributes are technical rather than physical, in my opinion.

Michael Cox, of http://www.zonalmarking.net makes Mertesacker an example, in an article titled, 'What constitutes being good in the air?' stating that Per, and others like him are likely to be a player uncomfortable with physical contact, of challenging opponents for the ball, but nevertheless a danger through height and the ability to find the target.

Here's the link http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/02/02/heading-good-in-the-air/

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Mar 18, 23:30

good observations in this post. The different types of players are well described too. Post this article in the stats analyzing section, I'm sure to define a player's header-type makes it easier for many people to rate them more accurately.

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby Mr. Evans » 2012 Mar 19, 10:44

Yeah his BAL should definitely go down. People look at his size and assume he's very strong and great in the air but he's not. And he defends by using his mind and skill, not by using his body. I have his BAL on a 82 tbh.
And yeah, Cox is spot on. He has great adavantage over most in aerial challenges due to his height, the same happens in game. But his leap isn't good, his heading isn't anything special either. I'd decrease his Jump to a white value and decrease Header to a 82.
DF leader and Covering should be removed, not sure he warrants Marking. And he needs lower speed stats, lower STA, lower DA/TECH and a CON drop. I'll update him later.

thor34 wrote:JUMP: 80/81/82. Digestible methionine and leap up to splice the header. From what I saw the half-length coat will easily to Angeleri.
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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Mar 19, 17:57

Really interesting article and it is funny that when i was reading the description of each "letter", i thought "Mertesacker sounds F for me" and he was. Agree with all Evans suggestions, but for DA/TECH, i wouldn't go lower than 70s sometimes his tall, lack of agility and dribble style makes him seeing a bit more rusty with the ball than he is.
Talking about his BAL, i found him more than weaker a lack of "balance" itself (sounds weird :lol:), don't talking about balance as strength but as equilibrium, is like when you have a tall building but very thin, the wind moves more and is less solid than is for me Mertesacker, is like in challenges he didn't plant hard to ground and become more fragile, so i will go for an 84. Hope my example clarifies my thought.

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Re: Per MERTESACKER

Postby Joak » 2012 Mar 19, 18:55

Agree on all, except in a much lower Tech, for me 74 is fine, he has
a nice first touch...
-Balance on a 84..
-Man mark isn't needed...

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