Jack Wilshere

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Jack Wilshere

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 10:53

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Jack Wilshere is an amazing English talent. In February 2008, he made his debut for Arsenal Reserves against Reading, and scored Arsenal's only goal of the match. In April he made his home debut, against Derby County Reserves, coming off the bench to assist Rhys Murphy. Against a West Ham United side, he set up the first goal for Portuguese striker Rui Fonte and was the scorer of the second goal, a curler that went into the top corner. He then played in the Atalanta Cup along with the club's other Under-16 players where they won the tournament and Wilshere winning player of the tournament.


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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby Jez » 2010 Oct 06, 15:02

Pedala Robinho seems to share similair thoughts to me on Wilshire ;)

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby BigStu » 2010 Oct 19, 15:26

I am doing him for my evoweb thread

edit: No Im not Monkevski has asked me not to

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby the sloth » 2010 Oct 19, 22:02

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby ronaldoisfat » 2010 Oct 20, 01:39

Technique needs to go up. Thats his strongest point of the game. 86 will a good value.

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby tc811 » 2010 Oct 20, 02:57

Please lower Jack's TS. It's clearly not indicative of his abilities, because he prefers to control the ball and quickly accelerate if he needs to find the next pass.

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby chanman » 2010 Oct 20, 03:33

I agree with some of pedala's suggestions. Watching a lot of games with him his tackling and defending is one thing that stands out. For someone so small he defends pretty well. You can see him hassling dribblers and making some decent tackles even though sometimes badly miss timed. I have more that I can say but will get to it later.

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby FletchNo10 » 2010 Oct 20, 08:33

I Think He Deserve's An Update Mate !

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby lushoxfloow » 2010 Oct 20, 17:27

He deserves a little more defense and the position of CMF. I've seen him play as a means of defense in recent games and it does pretty well.

def. to 53 is fine for me

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby the sloth » 2010 Oct 21, 20:21

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby pedala robinho » 2010 Oct 21, 20:48

@the sloth: though I liked your view about TS/ACC ratio on short players, I can't agree with seeing Wilshere under Fábregas. I even would agree, if U ask me, with a 80 there, putting him under Pjanic, Coutinho and Canales, but I really don't think he's so slow that he should be under 80's. Anyways, I believe Kev is doing a new set about Wilshere, so I would say the best thing is wait for this :D .

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby the sloth » 2010 Oct 21, 23:49

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby pedala robinho » 2010 Oct 22, 02:08

Look at 1:10 here. Would you say he doesn't deserve at very least a 80?

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby the sloth » 2010 Oct 22, 15:16

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby Karlos3004 » 2010 Nov 05, 21:57

CMF. Been saying it for literally years

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Ain't got shit on Fàbregas

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby pedala robinho » 2010 Nov 07, 03:59

Chelseakid08 wrote:I am doing him for my evoweb thread

edit: No Im not Monkevski has asked me not to

Sorry for being boring, but when this update comes?

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby Paddy » 2010 Nov 07, 04:09

Monkevski is taking a break, so quite some time, CK post up your set.

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby gemgem » 2010 Nov 08, 13:41

CARD:
S08 – Slide Tackle

he often slides

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby deity86 » 2010 Nov 08, 14:02

It's not a bad shout. I think I mentioned something about Jack having *Sliding at some time in the future in a set I sent to s-cobar a little while back. I don't think I backed up what I sent though, so I can't remember :?

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2010 Nov 08, 17:00

Agree with CMF. Maybe even as his main position.

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Re: Jack WILSHERE

Postby pedala robinho » 2010 Nov 15, 17:04

Well, as it seems that no one wants see him updated, I'll try a shot. I'm not the right person to do this, as I'm not a regular follower of Premier League or Arsenal, but I'll try to colaborate ladder-wise.

Name: Jack Wilshere "WILSHERE"

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Club: Arsenal
Number: 19
Position: *CMF*, AMF (SMF is optional)
Nationality: English _eng
Age: 18 (JAN-01-1992)
Injury Tolerance: B

Foot: L
Side: B

Length: 173 cm (source)
Weight: 68 kg (source)

Attack: 73
Defence: 64
Balance: 78
Stamina: 84
Top Speed: 80
Acceleration: 86
Response: 82
Agility: 87
Dribble Accuracy: 83
Dribble Speed: 88
Short Pass Accuracy: 81
Short Pass Speed: 79
Long Pass Accuracy: 79
Long Pass Speed: 81
Shot Accuracy: 71
Shot Power: 80
Shot Technique: 71
Free Kick Accuracy: 73
Curling: 82
Header: 69
Jump: 76
Technique: 82
Aggression: 75
Mentality: 84
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 86

Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 3
Consistency: 6

PLAYER INDEX CARDS:
S06 - Outside
S14 - Quick Turn

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
*Dribbling
*Tactical Dribble
*Outside

Some Explanations:

*WHY I DROPPED BALANCE:
While I'm quite sure that Wilshere is a strong guy (taking in consideration his size), stronger than Canales and Coutinho, I always was unsure about his Weight/Height ratio. So, I found a new source saying he's taller and a bit heavier (don't know if uefa.com is a trustable site), as he sure is taller than 170 cm. With the new ratio on Weight/Height, I dropped his Balance by one point. Seems fair to me.

*TOP SPEED AND ACCELERATION RATIO:
Though I liked sloth points, I still think he can run as fast as a 80 suggests. A little slower than Canales and Coutinho, both guys with similar body structure. I do think the ratio supply well.

*PASSING SKILLS:
Probably one of his biggest assets, the speed/power he puts on his short passes is really interesting. Combined at a decent accuracy, makes him able to do some killer passes, along with *Passer. I would put him over Coutinho and Canales in all passing skills.

*TECHNIQUE:
Considering we have Hazard at 86, Pjanic at 86, Coutinho* at 86, Canales at 84, Dzagoev at 84, Douglas Costa at 84, I think something between 85~86 would be fair.

*TEAM WORK:
Canales at 79, Hazard at 80, Coutinho* at 81, Pjanic at 87. I do think he should be
somewhere between 83~85.

It's a START, so, probably some stats can be unfair. It's just an incentive to start the discussion on this thread ;) .

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