Àngel Rangel

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Àngel Rangel

Postby PES Stats Database » 2010 Feb 14, 10:32

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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby Vandeach » 2010 Feb 14, 11:06

You've really underrated his response here, Angel Rangel is at least average quality when it comes to responding to loose balls and timing his tackles, an 80 would be a more appropriate value. In addition, I'd raise his attack, his intelligence whilst going forward is probably one of, if not the best in the Championship for a right or left back, a 70 really doesn't do him justice. I'd much prefer a 73/74 sort of value, also, I'd raise his acceleration by one point, his bursts forward are really quite deadly and it's what makes him such a threat going forward. Furthermore, why is his dribbling so low? He's not a punt and run player like a 77 suggests, he has a a really quite good level of close control when dribbling and I'm surprised you haven't seen him take players on with feints and tricks alike. He's certainly worthy of an 80 value for DA, if not a point higher. His agility could also come up by two or three, his agility isn't exactly a weak point of his and is really quite nimble.

One part I think you've slightly overrated though is his crossing, his balls into the box are often quite poor and it is certainly a weak point of his. I'd have his LPA on a 74/75, and his LPS on a 77. His technique could come up too, he has a fair amount of flair on the ball, and can take the ball quite elegantly, an 80 would be a fair value there. I'd probably up his aggression a couple and give him P01, he absolutely loves to bomb forward and it's that what has made him such a fan favourite. Moreover, his team work value needs a boost, his link up play is absolutely superb and whilst his passing isn't always effective that isn't because of a poor connection with team mates, he could sit on an 80 sort of value. Finally, why have you given him side, when he often loves to cut inside?

I'd like to know who accepted these stats, because I certainly wouldn't have done.
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby Softy » 2010 Feb 14, 11:28

Edit accordingly Vandeach?
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby Vandeach » 2010 Feb 14, 11:37

Done.
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby BigStu » 2010 Feb 14, 11:38

the problem I have with rating campionship player is I am forever mindfull of the difference in ability between the premeir league and championship and often give championship players lower values than I want to because of this

Oh and side wasn't meant to be there, the player I used as a template had dribbling and side and deleted the wrong one,
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby BigStu » 2010 Feb 18, 16:10

DS, Im starting to doubt the value hes got, could be a touch higher?
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby A-SK » 2010 Feb 18, 20:57

since when has an 80 (response) been an average figure for a fullback :?
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby Paddy » 2010 Feb 18, 21:08

Precisely my thoughts.
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby A-SK » 2010 Feb 18, 21:31

"average" for a second division fullback is probably something like 78 max.
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby Vandeach » 2010 Feb 19, 15:11

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough, Angel Rangel would at least be at an average level for response at the top level, in the Championship, the reason why he defends reasonably well is not due to his positional ability, but the fact that he times his standing and sliding tackles well, he can read the game fairly well and can time his runs fairly adeptly. I think there are quite a few SB's underrated in this area to be honest, and whilst it's not usually an integral part of their game, I do see it slightly unfair that there isn't a SB above an 86 for response in our database.
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby brazilianpesfan » 2010 Jul 07, 17:43

Will be very cool if some Spanish team buy him. Looks to be a very good player. :mrgreen:

With which Spanish League sideback his style of playing looks?Just to know...
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby BigStu » 2010 Aug 03, 12:04

looks close to a move to blackpool
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby BigStu » 2011 Nov 24, 22:47

really has stepped up his game this season defensively so given a minor update
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby BigStu » 2012 Jan 03, 19:02

Not trying to be rude here but defence 70, what the fuck?
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby Paddy » 2012 Jan 03, 21:12

He's probably the best right back in the division.
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby BigStu » 2012 Jan 03, 21:28

That's a big statement to make, and he's no where near worthy of 70 in def, 67 max
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby the sloth » 2012 Aug 25, 21:34

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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby BigStu » 2012 Aug 28, 18:56

same point with as with taylor on speed

not really sure on tech I've always seen him as a very cultured sb, but hmm maybe he's not better than bertrand
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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby the sloth » 2012 Sep 22, 17:13

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Re: Àngel RANGEL

Postby Korinov » 2012 Sep 22, 18:58

From what I've seen, DA-wise he's pretty decent and clearly better than Taylor, but don't think a yellow value is needed to replicate his style. Has good close control, which combined with decent AGI makes him an efficient dribbler, but not great. I'd say greens. Taylor should be on whites BTW.
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