José Bosingwa

[PES Stats Database]

[BigStu]

before he was injured he was good though since he's returned he's been not much better than Cole, though a bit more consistent at crossing, the quality of his best crosses is only sightly better than cole's best

[Fides]

Did these stats get an update today? At least tell us when and why?

[Paddy]

Stu.....

[BigStu]

I am fed up of posting suggestions to start a discussion that never happens, and paddy you been doing what I'm dong for far longer, no- one agreed to a downgrade of giggs.... No one discussed a downgrade to squilacci....

[lfc 4 eva]

I cant comment on other areas of his game but why did you decrease his speed stats? He's still fast as hell and definitely deserving of orange values.

[BigStu]

And 89 isn't fast? He lost a bitof pace, he's not as fast as players who sit on oranges..,

[lfc 4 eva]

And 89 isn't fast? He lost a bitof pace, he's not as fast as players who sit on oranges..,

Yes he is. He absolutely raped evra last week for pace.

[BigStu]

Evra had the wrong boots on last week, he kept slipping over so not the best game to judge speed

[lfc 4 eva]

He still looked quicker than this anyway regardless of evra.

[Fides]

Does he really deserve ATT 75? He goes forward quite a lot (he sitll will do that with this AGG), but I didnt caught him on really intelligent runs or movement or really offensive foxiness.

[Mr. Evans]

TERRIBLE CROSSER .
He's so bad I don't even get frustrated and just laugh when he crosses. Needs a huuuuuge drop, he's a 74 max nowadays though I'd go for a 73. LPS is too high as well, not a yellow value (anymore). I'd say he's a 79 max.
SPA and SPS are too high as well. He's under Ash in this for sure, SPA 74 max. While I'd put his SPS on a 74/75, mostly very short passes.

[BigStu]

Fair enough, done

He used to be a good crosser befoe his injury woe, I hope AVB keeps Bane as RB, Boswingwas an awful defender, intresting he should sit under glen johnson for def

btw this brings up clichy, you agree def must be lower than 66?

EDIT: 73 now thats harsh I won't go that low

[Mr. Evans]

Seriously, his crosses crack me up . They never go where he wants them to go. A 75 puts him on par with Alves and he's better than Bosingwa for sure.
You're right about him being pretty good before his injury, something went terribly wrong.
EDIT: My bad, Alves is on a 76. Still think he's a 74 max.

I'm confused, you think his DEF should go down? And yeah Clichy needs to come down, he's just awful. He can't sit on a higher value than Dani Alves.
And forgot about TW. He's not worthy of yellow value, I'd put him on a 79.

[Vranny]

Looking at his LPA now makes me a bit depressed. He used to be a bit like a right footed Baines. It seems not even Clichy can be jealous of his talents in this department now

[BigStu]

His crosses have become like bebes, occasionly decent by accident

[Pikka]

That's not true

[Mr. Evans]

His ATT needs to come down. He loves to go forward but when looking at the intelligence of his runs and and his positioning, he isn't worthy of a 75. Huge difference in class between him and Cole in this department really.. A 73 on par with the likes of Clichy and Van der Wiel is the value I'd put him on.

His TS is a bit too high, he's more like a 87/88. While his ACC should come down to like a 85, maybe 86, imo. He isn't all that fast at first, you really notice it when he runs back to defend.
BAL also needs a decrease. He's pretty weak for a guy of his size. A 77/78 should be enough. AGI is too high as well as he's pretty stiff (it's hilarious how he only knows how to run in straight lines with the ball ). I'd put him on a 80.

His Curl value is surprising. His crosses are very straight and hardly, if any, dip in them. I'd put him on like 74 tbh.
TW 81 is also too generous imo. His understanding with his team mates and looking at his movement in build-up play isn't this impressive. I'd put him on a 79.

[BigStu]

done, also lowered shooting stats he has no tech at striking the ball

[Mr. Evans]

What about lowering his DEF to like a 63 and RES down by one point.. Ment should be a 80 max and TW is still too generous, would be better on a 77. And I still say he needs lower LPA, he's a terrible crosser.

[Alexalibur]

What about lowering his DEF to like a 63 and RES down by one point.. Ment should be a 80 max and TW is still too generous, would be better on a 77. And I still say he needs lower LPA, he's a terrible crosser.

Pretty much. I have him at 75 TW, what do you think. too much eh?