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Ivica Olić

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 10, 22:02

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby CrO_WoNdEr » 2009 May 09, 14:53

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :D

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby A-SK » 2009 May 10, 01:01

:oops: honest mistake :lol: You all know what i mean 8-)

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Persee » 2009 May 10, 03:04

A-SK wrote::oops: honest mistake :lol: You all know what i mean 8-)


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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Minell » 2009 Jun 08, 11:09

must move to bayern münchen

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby calleklein » 2009 Jun 09, 09:04

moved

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Shubitidze » 2009 Jun 21, 06:11

DA is set too high. Though he often dribbles, so SA "Dribbling" is correct. Would decrease to 81 or maybe 82. If he dribbles he profits more of his physical abilities (speed, acc) than of his great technique.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby s-cobar » 2009 Jun 22, 07:06

Shubitidze wrote:DA is set too high. Though he often dribbles, so SA "Dribbling" is correct. Would decrease to 81 or maybe 82. If he dribbles he profits more of his physical abilities (speed, acc) than of his great technique.



I agree with that

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby BECKS23LA » 2009 Jun 22, 08:42

Agree too

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby eroadnero » 2009 Jun 30, 06:39

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Capone » 2009 Jul 29, 04:43

Olic is technical bad, I think 82 is too high. I suggest 79-80

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Shubitidze » 2009 Jul 29, 06:42

Capone wrote:Olic is technical bad, I think 82 is too high. I suggest 79-80


Agree... Özil sits on just 83 (!) and there are worlds between them in ball handling. Olic uses his body a lot, so his agility, balance, and pace to secure the ball.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby s-cobar » 2009 Jul 29, 06:56

agree with you guys but Özil is underrated at the moment

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Luisao82 » 2009 Aug 26, 15:10

Impressive stats.
Is he THAT good?

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby s-cobar » 2009 Aug 26, 15:16

yes he is.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Shubitidze » 2009 Oct 14, 23:16

Please update the picture.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby zuo » 2009 Dec 09, 00:21

just for effectiveness,he's 182 cms on official BM site.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Shubitidze » 2009 Dec 09, 12:28

I'm not sure if he really deserves STA=93. Of course he is running over the whole field with no breaks... but it's mainly because of his outstanding MENT. Very few players are as good as him concerning the MENT. What do you think about:

STA=89
MENT=93

Furthermore I don't think he really deserves WFA/WFF of 7/7. This would be on apr with Ballack (!).... I would say the maximum is 5/5 as there is a significant difference between the quality of his left and right foot.

WFA=5
WFF=5

Also I would like to add SS, this should even be his main position I think.

SS*, CF, WG

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby s-cobar » 2009 Dec 09, 12:31

agree in every detail

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby s-cobar » 2009 Dec 09, 13:45

updated with suggestions by Shubi

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby monKevski » 2009 Dec 09, 15:52

Disagree with all suggesstions, except his Weak Foot, it could down to 6/6.

If the Mentality is really high the player will run after every ball, hence he'd run lots of kilometers and it's significant for a high Stamina. I don't know any players in the Bundesliga except Tymoshchuk who should get this high number of Stamina, at the moment he has some deficits there, but it's because of his long injury. Everything under 92/93 will be a shame!
By the way, the Mentality is a bit too high in my opinion, sometimes he could be more determined in some tackles are runs, here I would say 91 would be fair.

Also disagree with the positions you'll give him, Shubi. Once Red told me, Olic doesn't play at the SS position, if he plays then rather at wings or forward, I rarely saw him playing at the position you suggested.

Here a post from jorgebolano about WFA/WFF:

Mid-to-high 80's might be enough for Mentality, I think. What he should have in any case though is a WFA of at the very least 7 if not even 8. In terms of both-footedness, he's very much the same as Roy Makaay (who was a natural right-footer though). WFF would be 7, if you ask me. Olic has actually scored about the same amount of goals with his weaker right foot as his stronger left one. He's 7.5 to me in terms of WFA, so it's a question of standards, I think. Makaay was also 7.5; Red_Phoenix and I gave him an 8, delperio went for a 7.

Statistics of his last 2.5 seasons according to transfermarkt.de:

Bundesliga: 7 L, 8 R, 5 H, 5 ?
UEFA-Cup: 3 L, 2 R, 1 H
German Cup: 1 L, 2 R, 1 H
CL Qualifiers: 2 ?
World Cup Qualifiers: 1 ?
EURO Qualifiers: 1 R
EURO 2008: 1 L
CL: 1 ? (penalty -> presumably L)

Total:
L: 12 (+ the penalty?)
R: 13
H: 7
?: 9 (- the penalty?)


I think it could go down by one point for both, sometimes he really has some problems when he must shoot with his right foot, but nevertheless like jb mentioned, he can easier score with his weaker one than other strikers.


Is there a chance to have a veto if the others still disagree?^^
Because I don't see there any good reasons to change something on the suggested points.

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