Ivica Olić

[CrO_WoNdEr]

[CrO_WoNdEr]

[A-SK]

honest mistake You all know what i mean

[sam250]

:oops: honest mistake You all know what i mean

[Minell]

must move to bayern münchen

[calleklein]

moved

[Shubitidze]

DA is set too high. Though he often dribbles, so SA "Dribbling" is correct. Would decrease to 81 or maybe 82. If he dribbles he profits more of his physical abilities (speed, acc) than of his great technique.

[s-cobar]

DA is set too high. Though he often dribbles, so SA "Dribbling" is correct. Would decrease to 81 or maybe 82. If he dribbles he profits more of his physical abilities (speed, acc) than of his great technique.

I agree with that

[BECKS23LA]

Agree too

[eroadnero]

Number: 11

[Capone]

Olic is technical bad, I think 82 is too high. I suggest 79-80

[Shubitidze]

Olic is technical bad, I think 82 is too high. I suggest 79-80

Agree... Özil sits on just 83 (!) and there are worlds between them in ball handling. Olic uses his body a lot, so his agility, balance, and pace to secure the ball.

[s-cobar]

agree with you guys but Özil is underrated at the moment

[Luisao82]

Impressive stats.
Is he THAT good?

[s-cobar]

yes he is.

[Shubitidze]

Please update the picture.

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[zuo]

just for effectiveness,he's 182 cms on official BM site.

[Shubitidze]

I'm not sure if he really deserves STA=93. Of course he is running over the whole field with no breaks... but it's mainly because of his outstanding MENT. Very few players are as good as him concerning the MENT. What do you think about:

STA=89
MENT=93

Furthermore I don't think he really deserves WFA/WFF of 7/7. This would be on apr with Ballack (!).... I would say the maximum is 5/5 as there is a significant difference between the quality of his left and right foot.

WFA=5
WFF=5

Also I would like to add SS, this should even be his main position I think.

SS*, CF, WG

[s-cobar]

agree in every detail

[s-cobar]

updated with suggestions by Shubi

[monKevski]

Disagree with all suggesstions, except his Weak Foot, it could down to 6/6.

If the Mentality is really high the player will run after every ball, hence he'd run lots of kilometers and it's significant for a high Stamina. I don't know any players in the Bundesliga except Tymoshchuk who should get this high number of Stamina, at the moment he has some deficits there, but it's because of his long injury. Everything under 92/93 will be a shame!
By the way, the Mentality is a bit too high in my opinion, sometimes he could be more determined in some tackles are runs, here I would say 91 would be fair.

Also disagree with the positions you'll give him, Shubi. Once Red told me, Olic doesn't play at the SS position, if he plays then rather at wings or forward, I rarely saw him playing at the position you suggested.

Here a post from jorgebolano about WFA/WFF:

Mid-to-high 80's might be enough for Mentality, I think. What he should have in any case though is a WFA of at the very least 7 if not even 8. In terms of both-footedness, he's very much the same as Roy Makaay (who was a natural right-footer though). WFF would be 7, if you ask me. Olic has actually scored about the same amount of goals with his weaker right foot as his stronger left one. He's 7.5 to me in terms of WFA, so it's a question of standards, I think. Makaay was also 7.5; Red_Phoenix and I gave him an 8, delperio went for a 7.

Statistics of his last 2.5 seasons according to transfermarkt.de:

Bundesliga: 7 L, 8 R, 5 H, 5 ?
UEFA-Cup: 3 L, 2 R, 1 H
German Cup: 1 L, 2 R, 1 H
CL Qualifiers: 2 ?
World Cup Qualifiers: 1 ?
EURO Qualifiers: 1 R
EURO 2008: 1 L
CL: 1 ? (penalty -> presumably L)

Total:
L: 12 (+ the penalty?)
R: 13
H: 7
?: 9 (- the penalty?)

I think it could go down by one point for both, sometimes he really has some problems when he must shoot with his right foot, but nevertheless like jb mentioned, he can easier score with his weaker one than other strikers.


Is there a chance to have a veto if the others still disagree?^^
Because I don't see there any good reasons to change something on the suggested points.