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Ivica Olić

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 10, 22:02

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Martok6 » 2009 Mar 23, 18:15

Heui wrote:DA is not only about trick variety but also comtroling the ball in a 1on1 situation (together with Technique). Olic is able to pass two/three players not only by his speed but also due to his close hold of the ball.


Well, Olic is able to pass some opponents, but he is not often successful. 80 reflects that well I think.


Heui wrote:Martok, it's not said that the players you named are rated correctly.


If Olic has 85 at DA, Marin for example should have 90 . I guess you agree with me that would be pretty sick.
Olic is a good dribbler, 85 makes him excellent.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby CrO_WoNdEr » 2009 Mar 31, 17:44

Heui wrote:
Heui wrote:I changed it to 7 for the time being.

It seems like CrO_WoNdEr changed it back to 6 because I don't even colour 6. I never do :S


If that'd be the case no one in Buli would scratch the 85 mark (except Ribery)


nah man i really didn't change anything im first time online since 10 days I was on skiing holiday with school :P

and the DA thingy: Olic do have a great dribbling i think 84 reflects him well, his only problem is that he ddon't know when it's enough he always loose the ball because he's trying to dribble a lot
Imo he has very well dribbling and so 84 is correct

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Heui » 2009 Apr 05, 21:30

CrO_WoNdEr wrote:nah man i really didn't change anything im first time online since 10 days I was on skiing holiday with school :P


Ok, maybe it was someone else then, but I'm sure I changed it before :P (doesn't matter anyway)

CrO_WoNdEr wrote:and the DA thingy: Olic do have a great dribbling i think 84 reflects him well, his only problem is that he ddon't know when it's enough he always loose the ball because he's trying to dribble a lot
Imo he has very well dribbling and so 84 is correct


Thanks for your support. That's exactly what I was talking about. Olic is able to go past 2 or 3 players but then he's stopped by another defender. There was such a situation in yesterday's match against Hoffenheim, where he passed 2 defenders but was stopped by the 3rd Hoffenheimer althought he had the chance to pass the ball to his teammates.
And it wasn't the first time this season Olic made a dribbling like that

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me :lol:

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby monKevski » 2009 May 03, 17:36

Some suggestions:

LPA: 75-76
He has decent flanks in his play and most of them find the teammate.
And therefore he is most of the time on the sideline to hit the ball into box, I think his LPA is too low.

Technique: ~82
Why do you rate him so low there? Well, he looks a bit gawky in his play, but he has a brilliant handling with the ball. He can take the ball very well to the ground after a crossing ball and he has still good tricks (it's not only the DA!) and also good passing abilities, where the Technique is also involved. From there I think 75 is really, really too low for him.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Heui » 2009 May 03, 19:39

agreed and updated

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Helios » 2009 May 03, 23:42

Maybe he needs an update in acceleration as well. Fatsest guy in the Euro : 31,76 km/h, remember that. This guy is almost unstoppable.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Martok6 » 2009 May 04, 08:23

Helios wrote:Maybe he needs an update in acceleration as well. Fatsest guy in the Euro : 31,76 km/h, remember that. This guy is almost unstoppable.


That value does not tell anything. It comes from the fact that he is running all the time. That leads to a high average speed.
Ballack for example is not fast, yet he had the highest value of all German players.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Paddy » 2009 May 04, 12:20

I agree with Helios that he does need a raise in Accel, but not because of the stats of Euro 2008, but due to the fact he has immense acceleration. I also think that his DS could come up too.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Helios » 2009 May 04, 14:13

I wasn't basing my suggestion on such stats. He simply reaches a fearsome speed in a very short moment, almost instantly.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby CrO_WoNdEr » 2009 May 04, 20:33

Helios wrote:Maybe he needs an update in acceleration as well. Fatsest guy in the Euro : 31,76 km/h, remember that. This guy is almost unstoppable.


i was suggesting the same a site before but nobody seemed to agree :|..
in my opinion he's should get at same acc value like odonkor or at least one below..
monKevski wrote:Some suggestions:

Technique: ~82
Why do you rate him so low there? Well, he looks a bit gawky in his play, but he has a brilliant handling with the ball. He can take the ball very well to the ground after a crossing ball and he has still good tricks (it's not only the DA!) and also good passing abilities, where the Technique is also involved. From there I think 75 is really, really too low for him.

i don't know why it got lowered, and i think we have a problem because i think martok was suggesting to lower his technique to 76 and 2 post later calleklein updated it..now you suggested 82 and heui updated it...imo it's becoming a mess.. what was it before the first "update"? i think 81/82 but i'm not sure...and I'd like to see that value again...and guys no offence but plz don't update all suggestions immediately first let us hear some other opinions ;)
so to sum up: acc to 93/94(maybe you think its a bit to high but that's how i'd rate him)
and technique to 81/82

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby PMC » 2009 May 04, 20:38

Olic is decent but many times he runs around like a headless chicken and his technique was lowered because he's obviously not near Eduardo technically

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby CrO_WoNdEr » 2009 May 04, 20:40

hmm ... you're true he isn't near eduardo but 76 was a bit too harsh.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby PMC » 2009 May 04, 20:49

CrO_WoNdEr wrote:hmm ... you're true he isn't near eduardo but 76 was a bit too harsh.


he was rated above Eduardo before :lol:

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby CrO_WoNdEr » 2009 May 04, 21:08

:D what was Olic tec value before i said it 2 posts ago, i don't know it anymore.. soo how about 80 i think it's quite a solid value for him..

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Heui » 2009 May 05, 17:53

CrO_WoNdEr wrote:and guys no offence but plz don't update all suggestions immediately first let us hear some other opinions ;)

I'm sorry but often after a suggestinwas posted there are barely any further opinions. That's why I often change a value if one or two user agree with the suggestion and/or the suggestion is common with my personal ladder.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby PMC » 2009 May 05, 18:04

considering his suggestions as I was the one who wanted to lower him, i just took a comparison with Eduardo and put 1+1 together

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby fillerup » 2009 May 09, 03:01

Heui wrote:
CrO_WoNdEr wrote:and guys no offence but plz don't update all suggestions immediately first let us hear some other opinions ;)

I'm sorry but often after a suggestinwas posted there are barely any further opinions. That's why I often change a value if one or two user agree with the suggestion and/or the suggestion is common with my personal ladder.

so true! even the bayern forum is completely neglected, and i dont make a lot of suggestions because ppl may think im biased

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby A-SK » 2009 May 09, 03:26

I consider this guy the Polish Rooney :D Similar in so many ways.

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby monKevski » 2009 May 09, 08:18

Polish Rooney, though he is a croatian. :shock:

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Re: Ivica OLIĆ

Postby Persee » 2009 May 09, 10:47

A-SK wrote:I consider this guy the Polish Rooney :D Similar in so many ways.


Polish Rooney???? :shock: Olic is Croatian :lol: ;)

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