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Juan Arango

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 21:53

Name: Juan Fernando Arango Sáenz
Double Nationality: Venezuelan _ven / Spanish _esp
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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby Hayame » 2012 Aug 01, 09:21

agree with all from MrEskola mainly his passing skills are clearly underrated. I see him as one of the best passer in the Buli. There has to be a bigger gap between his Long Passes and Short Passes but both needs a boost.

Short Pass Accuracy: 86
Short Pass Speed: 84
Long Pass Accuracy: 89
Long Pass Speed: 87

In terms of Long Passing for me he is one of the best in the Buli together with Hummels and Pander.

In TECH I agree with a 86-87.

Response needs to go down to middle 70´s.

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby čale » 2012 Aug 01, 09:51

if anyone is interested, this is what i'm using:

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Name: Juan Arango
Shirt Name: Arango
Shirt Number: #18
Team: Borussia Mönchengladbach
League: 1. Bundesliga
Nationality: _ven Venezuelan
Height: 179 cm
Weight: 74 kg
Age: 32
Stronger foot: Left foot
Registered Position: AMF
Other Positions: LMF

Attack: 82
Defence: 44
Balance: 77
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 79
Acceleration: 76
Response: 75
Agility: 80
Dribble Accuracy: 83
Dribble Speed: 80
Short Pass Accuracy: 86
Short Pass Speed: 80
Long Pass Accuracy: 92
Long Pass Speed: 84
Shot Accuracy: 82
Shot Power: 86
Shot Technique: 77
Free Kick Accuracy: 88
Curling: 88
Header: 75
Jump: 72
Technique: 90
Aggression: 77
Mentality: 67
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 84

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 3

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Passing
1-on-1 Scorer
Middle Shooting
Outside


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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby Hayame » 2012 Aug 01, 10:00

can agree with everything just TECH is a bit to high for me

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby MrEskola » 2012 Aug 04, 11:50

TECH could be a bit lower, like 87. I think his main position is SMF. But the rest about your set is very good.

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby Diego » 2012 Aug 14, 23:55

čale wrote:if anyone is interested, this is what i'm using:

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Name: Juan Arango
Shirt Name: Arango
Shirt Number: #18
Team: Borussia Mönchengladbach
League: 1. Bundesliga
Nationality: _ven Venezuelan
Height: 179 cm
Weight: 74 kg
Age: 32
Stronger foot: Left foot
Registered Position: AMF
Other Positions: LMF

Attack: 82
Defence: 44
Balance: 77
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 79
Acceleration: 76
Response: 75
Agility: 80
Dribble Accuracy: 83
Dribble Speed: 80
Short Pass Accuracy: 86
Short Pass Speed: 80
Long Pass Accuracy: 92
Long Pass Speed: 84
Shot Accuracy: 82
Shot Power: 86
Shot Technique: 77
Free Kick Accuracy: 88
Curling: 88
Header: 75
Jump: 72
Technique: 90
Aggression: 77
Mentality: 67
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 84

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 3

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Passing
1-on-1 Scorer
Middle Shooting
Outside



Been going again thru vzla matches on copa america on ytb, some good values there. Got some disagreements a few thoughts. hmm, ok here i go

Default Position: Lmf Definately

Ts 82:
-He is "fast", he takes a while to get there, but when given space he has proved to definately deserve yellow imo. I see from where current comes, but yes, it's too much.

Ds 78 (current):
-Dont think he needs more. Not sure if you are familiar with him, But for example his countrymate Cesar Gonzales is kinda the opposite of him, albeit he doesnt have pace, he is surprisingly fast on the ball (it's weird). Arango imo, has the pace but on the ball simply choose not to make much use of it on the ball.

Shooting:
Not that it matters much if it's gonna dissapear in the near future anyway( :P ), but he does have a good st imo. Personally, I like how his shooting stats are rated currently.

Jump 83 Head 77/78 (Default, dont mind slighty lower jump):
-Been thinking about this a while, but imo No need for decrease, but for an increase, his aerial game for a smf is over average, he knows how to attack the ball with his head and how to make use of his good leap, Doesnt show it that much, but as i said he is definately over average on both.

Tw 77 or so ?:
-Why so high? I am mainly basing this though on his performance with NT, but his support really didnt looked anything special to me really, good part of the time sticked on the left side. maybe i didnt paid much attention to it or he plays differently at Monchengladbach, dunno.

Long Passing/crossing:
-I kinda agree with it, looking at him closely you can see he is a very very good crosser, hmmm a 92? I am not convinced, honestly dunno, dont really disagree, I am sure he is at least high 80's though.

Short Passing:
-Again, he is a very good short passer, if he isnt a 86, i think he is really close to it. I see it fine on your value. There one thing that concerns me though, compared to guys like Robben and such, it puts a fair bit above them, not sure of how deserved that is? maybe some of them could be higher... anyway, just a thought.

Tec:
-Been specially looking at it because I was sceptic about it, Proved wrong, he really have a good first touch, not a showman, but consistent and effortless trapper.

Ment Lower but Still on 70's?:
-This is something that really depends on the way you see the stat.. and seeing the effect it's impossibru to me. the way I see it, I think he is comparable to Riquelme. A captain, Talented, but when things goes wrong he doesnt have the.. errr, Will power? that said, he doesnt struggle much either on those situations. I am thinking a 72

And one last thing, Do he really needs 1 vs 1?



oh well, bar what i have mentioned, i am using pretty much all the values of your set.

It was about time for konami to make a decent set for him :P still need more than a few changes, but definately better than what he used to have :|

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Aug 22, 02:06

I don't saw that TECH you both mentioned, he is a good trapper but inconsistent at times. If anyone watched today game against Dinamo Kiev at 23 min 1st Half you can notice what im talking about, if he is 90 TECH, we will be talking about a Glabach still with life in UCL... He isn't more than 86/87 at best for me.

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby Hayame » 2012 Aug 22, 14:12

So I try to put our suggestions togehter.

Most of the set from cale is perfect for me. But I would update it with some suggestions of Interist and Tec 87.

TS:82 is to high for me but 78 to low. I would be fine with a 80.

DS: I´m also fine with the current one

Header for me on 77 and Jump on 82

I think in TW he deserves Low 80´s. For me yesterday was a good example. In the attack he was the leader of the team. ALso he isn´t egoistic he just shoots when he is in a good position and he don´t see anyone in a better one. Other player as example Podolski with TW 75 trys to shoot much more often and don´t try to find the gap. So TW 82

Passing is for me perfext as cale posted. His LPA is just world class.

Mentality: For me an 71.

1 vs 1 scorer is for me not needed bit 1-toch pass.

So the set out of all suggestions:

Registered Position: LMF
Other Positions: AMF

Attack: 82
Defence: 44
Balance: 77
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 80
Acceleration: 76
Response: 75
Agility: 80
Dribble Accuracy: 83
Dribble Speed: 78
Short Pass Accuracy: 86
Short Pass Speed: 80
Long Pass Accuracy: 92
Long Pass Speed: 84
Shot Accuracy: 82
Shot Power: 86
Shot Technique: 77
Free Kick Accuracy: 88
Curling: 88
Header: 77
Jump: 82
Technique: 87
Aggression: 77
Mentality: 71
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 82

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 3

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
★ Passing
★ 1-Touch Pass
★ Middle Shooting
★ Outside

Freekick Style: 10

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby Diego » 2012 Aug 22, 18:00

Looks good. I still stick to my suggestions though :P but it's definately better than current, and that's what matters..

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby MrEskola » 2012 Aug 25, 15:11

Another great free kick goal from him. Another great performance so far for him, assisted Hanke's goal in the first half and scored himself from his fucking dangerous free kick.

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby Maz3r » 2012 Aug 30, 10:29

Everyone who has seen his last matches must agree, that his passing stats are too damn low.

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Aug 31, 03:19

Updated - Finally... Image

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby MrEskola » 2012 Aug 31, 19:36

He could also have IT: A.

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby s-cobar » 2012 Sep 05, 09:49

I think fka and curl could both be in the Orange, i Said it a half Year ago and i'm still on that oppinion

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby MrEskola » 2012 Sep 05, 13:40

That's something what I agree with.

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby Diego » 2012 Sep 05, 13:43

same.. but it seemed i was alone in that opinion..

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby pelimetal » 2012 Sep 05, 17:07

FKA and CURL must be ORANGE

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby MrEskola » 2012 Sep 06, 03:46

I think we've got enough agrees on this, go ahead and update. 90 or 91?

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby Hayame » 2012 Sep 06, 14:57

I agree, too. Both in low 90´s.

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby čale » 2012 Sep 06, 15:09

Updated.

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Re: Juan ARANGO

Postby AhoyDaniel » 2012 Dec 07, 05:23

Needs a SA raise. All of his shots against Ecuador were saved by the gk.

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