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Erwin Hoffer

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 17:19

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby ravlee » 2008 Dec 09, 17:28

so you're updating Erwin Hoffer with ur suggestions, which haven't been discussed yet.. quite interesting if u ask me - maybe we should apply all suggestions which are made.. why should we discuss on a discussion forum ...................... -_-"

Attack: 76
Defence: 32
Balance: 73
Stamina: 80
Top Speed: 86
Acceleration: 85
Response: 78
Agility: 76
Dribble Accuracy: 71
Dribble Speed: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 73
Short Pass Speed: 71
Long Pass Acc.: 67
Long Pass Speed: 69
Shot Accuracy: 78
Shot Power: 77
Shot Technique: 80
Free Kick Accuracy: 65
Curling: 68
Header: 78
Jump: 76
Technique: 71
Aggression: 85
Mentality: 68
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 73
Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7
Weak Foot frequency: 4
Consistency: 4


so suddenly he has 75 BB - 89/91 speed stats - 78 agility - is supremely fast with the ball 85... etc

please respect the created stats - you may not agree with everything, nor do I, but still u can't just change with ur suggestions - we can discuss about every suggestion and then make the necessary changes - thank you

- ok so lets see

BB: i think that 73 is already generous - 75 puts him on par with Park Ji Sung or Giggs which is not correct IMO

the speed stats: i know most ppl want them to be raised, but IMO he just seems fast (kinda like ronaldo who seems like on of the fastest player, cause of his short steps) - i could agree with a 87/86 but a 89/91 is too extreme

agility: could be yellow

DS: imo he loses quite a lot speed with the ball.. 85 is too high.. it should be 83 TOPS imo..

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 09, 17:32

its okay to start a discussion with... the truth is probably somewhere inbetween

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 09, 19:35

we'll see how he develops... maybe hes too quick or maybe not... theres NT games and liga games to find out

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby RB7 » 2008 Dec 09, 21:38

ravlee, scr just updated him to actually move him without loosing the suggestions, was not because he consideres himself the best or anything :lol:
The proof is that he suggested these changes in the old forum and didn't change them right away, waited for replies on that.. since there were none and he needed to move the player to this forum he updated him the way he thought better. I believe this was it right scr?
I did the same on Hulk, Lisandro and stuff.. the first post should be updated (even if people don't agree they can discuss it later like you're doing) because the suggestions were going to be lost after we move the stats to the new forum.. ;)
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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby PMC » 2009 Apr 03, 05:45

regarding the 2nd goal against Romania... he wasn't troubled or chased by anyone worth a note... Goian is among the slowest players in the NT... but Hoffer seemed relatively strong...

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby CrO_WoNdEr » 2009 Apr 03, 13:50

PMC wrote: but Hoffer seemed relatively strong...

yea man you're true maybe it could go up some points to 75/76?

and btw PMC what happened to Romania against Austria :P

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby PMC » 2009 Apr 04, 19:10

CrO_WoNdEr wrote:
PMC wrote: but Hoffer seemed relatively strong...

yea man you're true maybe it could go up some points to 75/76?

and btw PMC what happened to Romania against Austria :P


all 3 goals were terrible and not played out... Romania was technically 4 levels above Austria but they had a terrible gameplan and Austria fought hard enough to keep their result

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby scr1899 » 2009 May 05, 13:16

Increased BB to 75.

By the way, he has scored a few headers lately, 74 might be slightly underrated I believe.

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby Vandeach » 2009 May 11, 09:28

With 74 you can still easily score with your head, 74 is on par with Carlos Tevez and Marek Hamsik both of whom have decent headers. Also shouldn't his mentality be increased? He does have a good work-ethic, maybe a low 80? I always thought he was more of a *SS than a *CF.

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby scr1899 » 2009 May 17, 09:06

Vandeach wrote:With 74 you can still easily score with your head, 74 is on par with Carlos Tevez and Marek Hamsik both of whom have decent headers. Also shouldn't his mentality be increased? He does have a good work-ethic, maybe a low 80? I always thought he was more of a *SS than a *CF.

He's by no means a lazy forward, a yellow value would be slightly over the top though I believe. How about an 78?

By the way, I'd like to read some suggestions on his TS and ACC from non-austrian members as well.

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby PMC » 2009 May 31, 21:53

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attack: 80 - above the majority in Austria and only inferior to Janko
Stamina: 82 - he can easily last 90 minutes and doesn't seem dead in the final minutes imo
responce: 80 - he's no genius but I think his reading of the game helped him a lot.
Agility: 83 - he's a nimble guy
DA: 73 - he's really a push and run player but 71 is a CB value and I think Hoffer can use his feet well enough to do simple dribbles
SA: 80 - improved massively in this aspect and showed in various goals... something that could probably rise next season... I'm not sure that Janko has a better placement than him
Technique: 74-75 imo is a debatable proposition

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* One on One - he definately is lethal against a keeper and doesn't lose his nerves as he used to.

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby scr1899 » 2009 Jun 01, 10:31

general update (pmc's suggestions + updated passing stats, ment and DS) 8-)

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby PMC » 2009 Jul 11, 18:38

is it just me or did Hoffer's 1st touch improve tremendously?

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby scr1899 » 2009 Jul 11, 21:00

is it just me or did Hoffer's 1st touch improve tremendously?

Quite a stunning performance today against Schalke, and yeah, his first touch seemed pretty good as well, an 77 wouldn't be totally off I think.

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby PMC » 2009 Jul 11, 21:34

The 1st goal, where Jovanovic delivered a brilliant long ball was a brilliant showcase of technique how he got down the ball without much problems... in the 2nd half I think he did a similar action. He also screwed up once (where the ball hit his face) but he seems to be much better in this aspect now... if he keeps going like this maybe soon he'll be at 80 Technique

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby [P][a][t][o] » 2009 Jul 28, 19:35

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby PMC » 2009 Jul 28, 21:54

you can't be serious

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby PMC » 2009 Jul 28, 21:57

so much for building a competetive team for once :roll:

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Re: Erwin HOFFER

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Jul 28, 21:58

I can't be the only one noticing the smart moves Napoli's making :geek:

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