Theodor Gebre Selassie

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Theodor Gebre Selassie

Postby PES Stats Database » 2011 Nov 26, 20:08

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby FernandoA13 » 2012 Jun 13, 13:55

Isnt he quicker?

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby bitz » 2012 Jun 13, 14:14

Yeah he looks to be quicker than that. Also he plays more like a wing back, his current DEF seems too high and his MENT&TW need standardizing.

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Jun 13, 14:17

Feel the same after watching him at EURO, he looks faster both on and off the ball.
He's the kind of player who needs some time to reach his max pace, but he feels comfortable overlapping the opposition with pure speed ([]Darting Run?) (i.e. TS>ACC).
Definitely better in TS and DS than Rajtoral (TS 83, DS 83). Besides, Theodor's loose of pace when dribbling is minimal.
Comparing to Rajtoral, I suggest:
TS 85 or 86 (mracho, I'll let you decide on this).
DS 84.
RES to be standarized (I wouldn't go further 73, still not sure about a concrete value though).

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby Fides » 2012 Jun 14, 15:06

Good player. His ball control isnt special for a SB, I guess it could be slightly lower then 77.

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby mracho » 2012 Jun 17, 17:52

Thanks for the suggestions, guys. ;)

You are definitely right that he needs an update. The thing is - how am I supposed to update anything when there are no official definitions of the "new standards"? I've been following the discussions but there were no clear outcomes or conclusions. So, at the moment I'm very unsure how I would rate any player... and I don't feel confident about making any updates at all. :?

Still, I'd like to react to some ideas that have been mentioned.

His defence probably is too high, yes. Mainly because of his very attacking style - as for his actual defending ability, it has always been rather impressive (in the Czech league, I mean) and he's definitely not one of those attacking fullbacks who suck at defending. That's why I'd aslo say his Response should be quite a lot above 73, even in the new standards (but as I said, I'm not too familiar with them). I also agree with the Speed suggestions, TS should be above Acc, I'm not really sure if he needs an 85/86 though... And as for his Technique, I'm not sure. His DA is surely completely deserved, it could actually even go up a little bit. Technique is something a bit different of course - but it never struck me as one of Theo's weaknesses...

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby Tsakis » 2012 Jun 21, 15:18

Quality player.. He ripped us off at the euro(Greece) and looked. Extremely fast with and without the ball.. Really agile too and his ball control was good, I guess his def is a bit high though..

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby ballack13 » 2012 Jun 21, 19:43

I agree, definitely quicker. Looks to be around 85-86 values for ts and acceleration.

Also, he is pretty agile. I'd have him around 84.

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby Kerry » 2012 Jun 21, 20:45

He can be too careless at times.

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby mracho » 2012 Jun 22, 08:28

I guess I will try to come up with some suggestions/values at the end of the month. ;)

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby čale » 2012 Jun 22, 08:31

i'd say ACC is fine, TS could be a 84 at a max looking at him in the EURO's. also, he seemed quite fragile and he didn't quite justified that 79 in BB IMO.

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby mracho » 2012 Jun 22, 11:04

I also find 85/86 exaggerated to be honest, especially for Acc. Good point about his BB too, I think I originally put it a bit higher since he only weighs 72 kg. Could be a 77 or so.

(What is the 'official' opinion now by the way? Should we consider a player's weight when rating BB? ;) I think it definitely plays a role in PES6, not sure about the next-gen games, though.)

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby čale » 2012 Jun 22, 11:22

it's official, H&W are NOT considered while assigning BB values. ;)

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby Kerry » 2012 Jun 22, 11:43

mracho wrote: Well, then he/she was an idiom with a T at the end.


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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE, FC Slovan Liberec

Postby mracho » 2012 Jun 22, 12:33

čale wrote:it's official, H&W are NOT considered while assigning BB values. ;)

Fine, thanks. In that case, BB 79 does seem a bit over the top. Something like 76-77 would fit better I guess.

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE

Postby artingei » 2012 Sep 03, 22:47

Should be faster, about 84 acc. and 85-87 top speed. He has a bad positional play (response to 74?!) and trying to make it up with his high stamina, should be around 88. (He´s running the line upside down like crazy).
Should also get the card Darting Run P04.

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE

Postby Hayame » 2012 Sep 06, 15:08

I didn´t see him often enough to judge about him, so i´m for waiting until he played more games at Bremen.

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE

Postby mr.Boss » 2012 Oct 20, 17:09

WTF he need an update he is very quicker,TS should be 85-86,ACC 84DS 83-84,ATT 71.

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Oct 21, 01:49

I agree with a higher TS and maybe DS to 83/84 while I don't think he needs a raise in ATT. About ACC, 1 point higher to 83 should be enough.
Additionally I'd like to lower both Gebre Selassie's RES and MENT from 78 to 74/75, he isn't the fastest to react which often causes trouble while defending, also he is anything but a player with a strong resolve in all aspects of life.

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Re: Theodor GEBRE SELASSIE

Postby mr.Boss » 2012 Oct 21, 09:50

OK ;)

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