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Thiago Motta

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 16:36

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby zuo » 2009 Sep 21, 19:36

Tiago7 wrote:Injury Tolerance: B you people are joking this guy is injiury again for one mothe he shoul have C


last year got a decently year about inury tolerance....played 27 games...but for the amount of injuries he takes (and has taken) and the span of those,i think he could be a C

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby Ace » 2009 Sep 21, 20:44

WTF he injured, I hope he will not start a bad series :(

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby aurandon » 2009 Nov 24, 17:32

He deserves a *Passing regarding his vision. Also, SPA/SPS should be marginally increased.

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Nov 24, 23:33

aurandon wrote:He deserves a *Passing regarding his vision. Also, SPA/SPS should be marginally increased.

I can agree to passing* but anything more than that is unwarranted. Tech could go up to 83 (or I could lower Stankovic, Eto'o and Cambiasso's tech by 1 pt). Also his registered position should be CMF.

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby Ace » 2009 Nov 25, 23:31

surely his main position is CMF, and I would also remove the optional CB

about *Passing, it's ok for me

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby zuo » 2009 Nov 25, 23:35

i disagree to *Passing. i don't put him in the category of passers like Cassano,Cossu,Kakà ecc...he is just great about help mantain possession......imo it's more a TW issue

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby Capone » 2009 Nov 26, 14:52

I also disagree to *Passing.

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Nov 26, 15:29

zuo wrote:i disagree to *Passing. i don't put him in the category of passers like Cassano,Cossu,Kakà ecc...he is just great about help mantain possession......imo it's more a TW issue

they have much better passing stats tho. I happy either way. Only stat that needs real updating is tech. He's certainly more comfortable on the ball than either Stankovic and Cambiasso. IMO tech @ 82-83. aside from that I'm pretty happy with these stats as they are

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby zuo » 2009 Nov 26, 16:25

TEC ladder is a bit hard to read at the moment........i could agree to an 82,but surely people like Candreva,Dzemaili,Lodi and Mauri are more gifted than him.....and than Maicon too(who sits @83).

What really always makes me think is his DA/DS rating....i have to keep an eye on that,counting that he is really not fast at all.

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby Capone » 2009 Nov 26, 16:35

No, Disagreed with technique update too. Motta isn't technical as strong as the players that zuo mentioned.

I think his technique value is 100% right.

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby nico90 » 2009 Nov 26, 18:36

I agree with CMF* and TEC 82. Disagree with passing 'cause IMO it's a TW issue;

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby zuo » 2009 Nov 26, 20:36

imo,
if Motta has indeed a better touch than Cambiasso and Eto'o and Stankovic it would be proper lower the rest of them.it wouldnt be fair having some players rated so high only cause a 'team-laddering'....if i have to be honest,Inter squad in general never impressed me as general quality of first touches,and this is linkable to their real issue,the somehow lacking of technical playing....seeing the ladder:
Muntari at 81 TEC seems too high,Cambiasso too.....Stankovic im unsure either.
probably id ladder them as:

84 J.Zanetti safe value!
83/84 Eto'o
83 C.Chivu safe value!

82(tops) Maicon
81/82 T.Motta
81/82 Stankovic
80 Cambiasso
79 Muntari

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Nov 26, 20:45

zuo wrote:imo,
if Motta has indeed a better touch than Cambiasso and Eto'o and Stankovic it would be proper lower the rest of them.it wouldnt be fair having some players rated so high only cause a 'team-laddering'....if i have to be honest,Inter squad in general never impressed me as general quality of first touches,and this is linkable to their real issue,the somehow lacking of technical playing....seeing the ladder:
Muntari at 81 TEC seems too high,Cambiasso too.....Stankovic im unsure either.
probably id ladder them as:

84 J.Zanetti safe value!
83/84 Eto'o
83 C.Chivu safe value!

82(tops) Maicon
81/82 T.Motta
81/82 Stankovic
80 Cambiasso
79 Muntari


i can't disagree with you Zuo. IMO Stanko, Cambiasso and Eto are not as sound technically as Motta, not by much mind.

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby zuo » 2009 Nov 26, 20:51

nice to hear that from you.....right now im going out,we can discuss some values for all that players later....it's important to make right values for all players,sure,but when we come to BIG clubs it' moreso important cause the weaknesses are more difficult to find/admit. imo Tech skills,(not Technique alone) are in general the not great point of Inter,a well known 'phisical' team....opposite to Body skills,like Stamina,Body Balance,Speeds,Condition and so.........that's my view.

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Nov 26, 22:57

zuo wrote: imo Tech skills,(not Technique alone) are in general the not great point of Inter,a well known 'phisical' team....opposite to Body skills,like Stamina,Body Balance,Speeds,Condition and so.........that's my view.
i'm sure every inter fan would agree with you, myself included.

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Dec 05, 02:47

So tech @ 81 possible 82. Also thinking of upping attack to 74 since be plays more like a box-to-box midfielder.

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby Alex_10 » 2009 Dec 05, 22:07

Rfuna wrote:Also thinking of upping attack to 74 since be plays more like a box-to-box midfielder.

And what about swapping ATK and DEF, his tackling technique is pretty rough..

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Dec 13, 16:47

Alex_10 wrote:
Rfuna wrote:Also thinking of upping attack to 74 since be plays more like a box-to-box midfielder.

And what about swapping ATK and DEF, his tackling technique is pretty rough..

thats possible. although I'm somewhat cautious as he once fielded as a CB and DMF, but with mixed results.

Other updates I'm looking at:

agility @ 77 -->nothing excessive but he's somewhat elegant on the ball with his movements and turns. i think for a big lad it is quite a safe value
DS @ 78 --> decent runner on the ball. still quite slow though
tech @ 82
LPA @ 83 --> nice placement, although not much range with his long balls
LPS @ 81

remove middleshooting*-->he is getting less play time but when was the last time he had an effort on goal from distance?

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Dec 22, 04:04

updated registered position (to CMF), attack, defence, BB, agility, DA, DS, LPA, LPS, swerve. tech and aggression

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Re: Thiago MOTTA

Postby Dino » 2010 Apr 02, 16:18

IT should go back to C IMO.

He has always been an C player 'cept last season.

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