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Zlatan Ibrahimović

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby bitz » 2012 Jul 31, 18:30

His attack already makes up for what he lacks in response.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Adrien » 2012 Jul 31, 22:15

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RES.. he is the laziest player ever.. I think? He strolls everywhere, lots of balls he doesn't even attempt to go far, he doesn't run to get on a ball if hes more thn a few yards away. He needs something drastic in both imo, the 80 resp makes him to willing to do things, when at this stage in his carrer... hes less willing than hes ever been.


This is absolutely true, he doesn't even care. How do you reflect this in game? Giving him low response and let me disagree (If i understood your point zuo), with 78/79 in game you're a more than decent player in terms of response. Konami gave him 75 and it's basically correct, and I'd go for an even worse number tbh.


Yeah Benzema is a very lazzy player but Ibrahimovic is far over evrybody lol. Never saw a such lazzy players.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby vinnie » 2012 Jul 31, 22:33

and yeah, i've been playing around and testing with an experiment zlatan at 66 res for a while, and i never really felt he was handicapped even with so low res, might even try lower to see the effect! :lol:

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Kim » 2012 Aug 06, 01:04

Yes. Go ahead, give him 66 in response. So he will become as reactive as a snail in the box. :|

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby vinnie » 2012 Aug 06, 03:57

@ Kim Image No bias at all i see...
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TW/RES.. he is the laziest player ever.. I think? He strolls everywhere, lots of balls he doesn't even attempt to go far, he doesn't run to get on a ball if hes more thn a few yards away. He needs something drastic in both imo, the 80 resp makes him to willing to do things, when at this stage in his carrer... hes less willing than hes ever been.

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RES.. he is the laziest player ever.. I think? He strolls everywhere, lots of balls he doesn't even attempt to go far, he doesn't run to get on a ball if hes more thn a few yards away. He needs something drastic in both imo, the 80 resp makes him to willing to do things, when at this stage in his carrer... hes less willing than hes ever been.


This is absolutely true, he doesn't even care. How do you reflect this in game? Giving him low response and let me disagree (If i understood your point zuo), with 78/79 in game you're a more than decent player in terms of response. Konami gave him 75 and it's basically correct, and I'd go for an even worse number tbh.


Yeah Benzema is a very lazzy player but Ibrahimovic is far over evrybody lol. Never saw a such lazzy players.


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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby adam13 » 2012 Aug 06, 04:50

Can someone post a video how lazy he is. I wanna see.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby bitz » 2012 Aug 06, 08:03

adam13 wrote:Can someone post a video how lazy he is. I wanna see.


Watch a few games and you will understand. He seems to operate on his own on the pitch. Also he chooses when to play, for the NT he is usually a shadow of himself (with the exception of Euro).

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby adam13 » 2012 Aug 06, 08:51

I don't always watch Ligue 1 match. Just give about 5 minutes video how he plays.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Adrien » 2012 Aug 06, 12:26

It is impossible to show you it with a video, you can only see it by watching a full game. In defensive actions, a team is compact, all player make pressing, but Ibrahimovic is waiting and walking for example. He doesn't run on all actions, he choose wich one will be the more benefit for him and his team.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby jurgens » 2012 Aug 08, 21:32

Kim wrote:Yes. Go ahead, give him 66 in response. So he will become as reactive as a snail in the box. :|

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I'm really starting to wonder about his stats having seen 2013. Konami did go with the less agility, but tbh I think it can go lower, maybe coupled with a higher DA.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Yazid » 2012 Aug 08, 22:31

Is there any reason that there has been 3 pages of people agreeing that Ibra should have red balance and he is still sitting on 91.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby vinnie » 2012 Aug 08, 23:10

because the season hasn't started yet?

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Yazid » 2012 Aug 08, 23:15

And yet alterations were made to his attack, response and shot technique when the suggestions were made after the balance discussion, which were based on the euros and the end of the serie a season.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby vinnie » 2012 Aug 08, 23:21

eh, there's no rush at this stage... rather quality then rushing something based on limited or now vague recollections, or out of date obsolete vids..

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Yazid » 2012 Aug 08, 23:22

Fair enough, it just seemed a unanimous opinion.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby blaugrana » 2012 Aug 08, 23:53

He should have white Agility, simply because he is a cow. When the hell does he use agility? I dont think he is able to beat players with agility anymore. DA 89 is fine if compensated by red balance. He may not be red balance in aerial duels but when comes to holding of defenders he is the strongest of em all. He often gets wrong freekicks against him just because players fall all the time in body contact with him. Imo his tech could go down to oranges too if he is given red balance. He is not that consistent and flawless in trapping.. But if tech has anything to do with shot technique in Pes12/13 it should ofcource stay in red region.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby vinnie » 2012 Aug 08, 23:59

i see white agility in him too, but not sure if it's his current condition or just his general level, we'll see soon.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby midnight » 2012 Aug 09, 00:30

imo dropping his AGI and Raising his DA by one point would do , but i'd wait to see his first games in Ligue 1 before making any Update.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Ehrgeiz » 2012 Aug 09, 15:05

I think that giving him a white value in AGI would be incredibly harsh. With his current one, he's already not proficient in that aspect.
Moreover, i think that AGI is related to some spectacular shooting techniques, right ? If that is the case, that's one more reason to keep his current AGI, since Ibrahimovic is capable of some sick gestures. We all remember his goal against France.

About response, i also think that lowering it would be a mistake, if low response reflects laziness, and high one awareness of the general play and movement.
Ibra changed his style of play over the last two years, he's dropping down, building play, delivering passes, in short: Acting like those creative strikers like Benzema. Ibrahimovic's lazy days are over. He sure do not chase players everywhere and intercepts balls but come on, since when Ibra has been asked to act like a defensive midfielder ?



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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby jurgens » 2012 Aug 09, 15:12

Ibrahimovic's lazy days are over


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