Javier Zanetti | 1997-1999 | 2006-2011

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Javier Zanetti | 1997-1999 | 2006-2011

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Jan 06, 18:30

Nickname: "El Tractor"

Club: F.C. Internazionale Milano



Growth Type: Standard/Lasting

INFO:

Ahh Zanetti in his prime, in my top 3 right-backs ever to be honest.

Hasn't changed a whole deal but was at the peak of his powers in terms of immense physical fitness at this time, whilst being a quintessential attacking full-back making non-stop attacking raids down the right side while at the same time being a great defender. Rarely being caught out due to great reading of the game and his superb tackling.

Also his dribbling ability could be overlooked in the period, in his prime Zanetti could dribble pass almost anyone in front of him at will with those long runs of his.

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Club: F.C. Internazionale Milano



Growth Type: Standard/Lasting

INFO:

I don't really feel I have to say a lot about him. He's one of the most famous names in world football today probably like Maldini. Inter's best player for past decade definitely and he's the one player who 99% of time has a good game and one of the most consistent I've ever had pleasure of seeing.

Obviously now at 35 I feel he's slightly going downhill and not as great as he used to be nonetheless in his peak it was my opinion that he was definitely #1 right back in world and now although not the same Javier, he's still one of the best!

What I loved about him was that he is Argentinian, he does have attacking football in his blood like the Brazilians and he is indeed very attacking minded which you'll see him making constant runs down the right hand side in your game with an 80 attack and 83 aggression BUT here's the big part that sets him apart from all other great attacking fullbacks and that is the fact that he's also a great DEFENDER. His tackling, his sense of positioning, his reading of the game at times is good enough to be a world class center back. So while Cafu, Cicinho and many other of the world's good attacking right backs go far and then you see have trouble defending or getting caught out, that was never a big or consistent error of Javier as he was almost equally great at both.

I don't use the term "Legend" too loosely but when I call this guy one, I really mean it. He has been on top of his game for 10 years doing great for NT and his club (too bad Inter never won anything and so one of the greatest right-backs in history of world football will maybe retire without having won anything probably unless Argentina win WC) and I will certainly miss him but always remember him as one of the greatest players I ever had pleasure of watching!

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Zanetti

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Zanetti

http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/players/player=29332/profile/index.html

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Re: Javier ZANETTI | 1998-1999

Postby zguc » 2010 Apr 22, 11:36

I think that BB's should be higher, he was very strong in duels, it is impossible to take the ball when he has his feet ..
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Re: Javier ZANETTI | 1998-1999

Postby Rfuna » 2010 Apr 22, 22:48

rossoner wrote:Yes, I agree with you, he is very strong player best Inter player over 10 years, definitely deserves a higher BB

you're not taking his agility into consideration nor are you making comparisons with other players. Yes he's strong, but stronger than who exactly? IMO BB is fine.

Now attack and defence stats need lowering.

Regarding attack we can all quickly agree that he isn't on par with Maicon, Grosso or Alves (all at 79) nor are his attacking movements better than Riise (currently @ 75 but could easily go up 1pt). JZ made a lot of great attacking runs but his decision making in the final 1/3 left a lot to be desired. He just doesn't have the creativity or imagination to pose that much of an attacking threat to opposing defenders. IMO attack @ 73-74 because I do think he was better then than he has at the moment.

Looking at defense, this definitely an area where JZ has improved in terms of reading and anticipating player movements. Current JZ sits @ 86 and I think this version ought to be lowered 2pts to convey the level of improvement. His ability to read plays is better now I think as he is far more less reliant on his speed as he was earlier in his career where a player can dribble past and he would quickly recover using his speed. IMO we should lower defense to 72.

Freekick and curling values are rather puzzling. I can't recall JZ ever requesting or being summoned to take a freekick and he was never know to curl his efforts. Current values for JZ: freekick @ 72 and curling @ 76. Somewhere in that region looks reasonable.

As for aggression, I don't think JZ made many attacking runs off-the-ball. Current JZ has aggression @ 72, I think he can be respectfully lowered to a high 70's number as he mostly went forward on dribbling runs rather than to latch onto a pass.

Marking* and Sliding* can go, he did neither effectively.

In sum:
Attack @ 73-74
Defence @ 72
Response @ 84
Fka @ 72-74
Curling @ 76
Aggression @ 77-79

Remove Marking* and Sliding*

Oh and its disputable whether at this moment JZ was at his prime. He was certainly faster but not sharper.

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Re: Javier ZANETTI | 1998-1999

Postby Rfuna » 2010 May 07, 18:35

Rfuna wrote:
In sum:
Attack @ 73-74
Defence @ 72
Response @ 84
Fka @ 72-74
Curling @ 76
Aggression @ 77-79

Remove Marking* and Sliding*

Oh and its disputable whether at this moment JZ was at his prime. He was certainly faster but not sharper.


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Re: Javier ZANETTI | 1998-1999 & 2009-2010

Postby Plava Čigra » 2010 Jun 09, 11:50

Brezza already applied some of Rfuna's suggestions to 1997-1999 Zanetti. I've made a few more changes...

1. Attack: 78-->75 - He shouldn't be 2 points over current Evra (76). I don't see that he is 4 points (or even more considering that he wouldn't be in green area) worse then current Maicon (78).

2. Defence: 76-->72 - Agree. He relied more on his speed and anticipation then on his defensive positioning.

3. Curling: 79-->78,

4. Aggression: 84-->82 - I agree he wasn't on the same level as Assou-Ekotto (for example), but he was certainly 1 point better then current G. Neville (81).

5. Added P10: Box to Box.


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Just to mention that although Response: 86 was a bit over the top, he did relied on his Response in those days, and 1 point under current Zanetti is fine value. Imo, he was 1 point better then current Maicon (84).

Also, he took free-kicks (occasionally), but those were almost always crossing free-kicks, so I think current FKA value (72) is ok.

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Re: Javier ZANETTI | 1997-1999 & 2009-2010

Postby HFClub » 2010 Jun 09, 15:25

Marking and sliding should not go, obviously we all know the player and know that he did it with effectiveness, he was hard and precise.
I really dont understand where that idea come from.

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Re: Javier ZANETTI | 1997-1999 & 2009-2010

Postby Rfuna » 2010 Jun 10, 12:27

very good update. Thanks.

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Re: Javier ZANETTI | 1997-1999 & 2009-2010

Postby Fevernova » 2011 May 26, 14:56

I don´t think he should have 93 in MENT when he was 26 and 88 at 36, MENT and TW are not attriutes you lose with time, in players like Zanetti it tends to grow and grow...

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Re: Javier ZANETTI | 1997-1999 & 2009-2010

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jun 16, 22:31

i'm not sure if you lose TW with the time... about hte MENT, i'm agree

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Re: Javier ZANETTI | 1997-1999 & 2009-2010

Postby Fevernova » 2011 Jun 17, 16:13

it´s a common mistake about TW...Brezza gave Maldini in 1993 (aged 25) 93 for TW, while for the 2002-2003 post (aged 35) S-J23 gave him 89...why??!! Im pretty sure he wasn´t more of a leader when he was a young SB than an experienced (maybe the best ever) CB. Understand? I think the same goes to this Zanetti post... ;)

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Re: Javier ZANETTI | 1997-1999 & 2009-2010

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jun 17, 22:55

sorry, i read bad you post, i read "MENT and TW are attriutes you lose with time" in the place of "MENT and TW ARE NOT attriutes you lose with time"

sorry was my mistake, i'm totally agree with you about TW and MENT, sure the old zanetti need a higer value in both stats compared with the young zanetti

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Re: Javier Zanetti | 1997-1999 | 2006-2011

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