I am not with the excel file here with me, but yesterday I compared it and Figueroa was showing these values:
Def - 98
BB - 91
DA - 83
MENT - 98
TW - 95
Probably were something like this.
Now, and discussing what is really important:
It is valid to say that Figueroa and Baresi were the best central back ever ( I will not include Maldini here because part of his career was played as a left sideback).
About Baresi, most of us saw him playing probably ( I saw even if already in his late years) and he was clearly the defender everyone wanted to be, because he did defend and he was the "boss" type player, the ones who everyone see as a leader and knows what to do with the ball when attacking. These are the most popular kind of players, and my personal opinion tells me he is my favorite defender which I saw playing.
But about Baresi youtube shows a lot of stuff, so it is easy to elaborate conclusions on him.
Now Figueroa, what do we know about him?
I am sure there is plenty of data to research ( which I didn't do yet, but probably will if the need for that happens in this thread) but we have the facts. Always the facts.
Based on the background text of this player we can see his individual titles: Best CB of WC, Best Def of South America 6times and of world 4 times. Best player of Americas 3 times and BEST PLAYER OF THE WORLD 1 TIME.
His curriculum is flawless.
Now to emmulate stats, the one who does it will have to do an intenssive search and post a lot of backdata (as if his CV wouldn't be enough) but we must decide, as a 1st step a single question:
Is Figueroa the Best Ever Defender until the days of today?
If yes is the answer, we could be using similar values of the initial ones as they portray him as best ever.
If no is the answer, we could be using the silent updated values which, still, make him second best and a fantastic defender in all the aspects of his game.
I honestly think that we could start this thread based on the relative perception we have (or will have) between him and Baresi.
And once again, let me say that Baresi is my favorite defender ever, so I am not really trying to increase Figueroa's stats just because yes.
No. What I intend is to learn and know who really was the best, and since Figueroa is by far one of the best ever defenders and, consequently, one of the best ever players of football, it is very important to make this discussion rolling to get to a consensual agreement which will have impact on the ladders, because it is very nice and useful to know who's the best to setup a basis of comparision while stats making.
I hope this posting of mine can help you guys to decide to take action here. We can do it.
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