Wojtek wrote:IMO Att should be higher, nothing less than 69, because of his numerous offensive actions and the fact that he's almost always active in corner kicks and helps in creating offensive actions.
Wojtek wrote:P18 (Extra Attacker) card should be added too.
Wojtek wrote:Futhermore his BB for sure isn't worse than Choto's (92).
Wojtek wrote:Aggression on 73 is definitely not enough, his attacks are very fast and intense, I suggest 80.
E_9 wrote:Balance: Yeah, only Choto is stronger than him, so 90 looks good.
E_9 wrote:Attack: Marcelo was definitly the best defender in that poinst. We gave him 68, so Manuel should have... 64? 66?
E_9 wrote:Aggression: 80? He isn't striker or winger my friend Lucio has 76, Bougherra has 76 too... Marcelo has 72, so I think 72 is good value for Arboleda.
tomaster wrote:Why he does not deserve that *? Do You deny him making attacking rides?
tomaster wrote:But there are few CB in Europe who deserve that *. I assume You think he is not making dribbles frequently enough to guarantee that *?
tomaster wrote:I have no idea why it may not fit, I was thinking DA got nothing to do with *dribbling.
tomaster wrote:he is something like Lucio and likes to join attacks with ball to his foot.
Pumpernikiel wrote:Well, in my opinion Arboleda is a little bit underrated in DEF. Ive tried to pick up the best (sorry if i forgot about someone) CB's of Ekstraklasa:
Inaki Astiz (possibly best in DEF in Ekstraklasa)
Manuel Arboleda (i'd raise DEF +1 or even 2, hes not that worse than Skerla or Choto, and for sure not at the same lvl as Pietrasiak now)
Osman Chavez (didn't see many matches of him, cant rate)
Bartosz Bosacki (better than Skerla (Jagiellonia) in DEF, in my opinion second in DEF in Ekstraklasa (id give DEF +1, and his speed stats might be underrated)
Dariusz Pietrasiak (was one of the best, now not the same player as he was in GKS)
Conclusion: +1/2 DEF for Arboleda, +1 for Bosacki
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