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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jan 12, 01:08

dribble speed can be 82-83? he dribbles very fast, not good but fast

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Jan 12, 05:03

xeneize wrote:dribble speed can be 82-83? he dribbles very fast, not good but fast


Agree, he doesn't lose too much speed when he has the ball

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby julgui » 2011 Jan 12, 16:45

vickingo_73 wrote:
xeneize wrote:dribble speed can be 82-83? he dribbles very fast, not good but fast


Agree, he doesn't lose too much speed when he has the ball


I suggest:
Agility: 81-->82 Dribble Accuracy: 76-->77 Dribble Speed: 80-->82 Short Pass Accuracy: 76-->73 Short Pass Speed: 75-->72
Long Pass Acc.: 73-->75 Long Pass Speed: 77-->76

I thinks viking?

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Jan 12, 17:20

julgui wrote:
vickingo_73 wrote:
xeneize wrote:dribble speed can be 82-83? he dribbles very fast, not good but fast


Agree, he doesn't lose too much speed when he has the ball


I suggest:
Agility: 81-->82 Dribble Accuracy: 76-->77 Dribble Speed: 80-->82 Short Pass Accuracy: 76-->73 Short Pass Speed: 75-->72
Long Pass Acc.: 73-->75 Long Pass Speed: 77-->76

I thinks viking?


Sounds good, but I don't agree with decrease his level of SPA and SPS

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jan 23, 21:36

sorry.
TS: 87 ACC:88-91 after the season(pretemporada) it was faster like old times
DS, ATT and AGG were explained
DEF I think there to turn it down to 66 because it is not going well in that area a while ago.
TW: increasingly better understood with their colleagues in the field
WFA: 8. he has two left feet, actually is better with than the right izuierdo jaja. look the centre in the second goal of boca vs riber

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Jan 31, 20:38

Changed to the new format and fixed some values :mrgreen:

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Feb 20, 20:12

xeneize wrote:he stay so bad in defence... he only stop the oponents with fouls.... i suggest DEF:60 and RES: 76 he read very bad the "jugadas" and don´t anticipates


I think that he's very well rated, 76 is a shame for an international player like Clemente, may be 78, but DEF 66 also is a very low value

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby xeneize » 2011 Feb 20, 20:49

currently playing very badly and now I become international. Can Have maybe 77 max in RES. and in DEF max Can Have 62-63, he can not stop their opponents, the only way to stop them is by committing fouls. and that is a mixture of poor defending with a low response.
Watch a game of him and you will see that they are not so bad these suggestions

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Feb 20, 20:54

xeneize wrote:currently playing very badly and now I become international. Can Have maybe 77 max in RES. and in DEF max Can Have 62-63, he can not stop their opponents, the only way to stop them is by committing fouls. and that is a mixture of poor defending with a low response.
Watch a game of him and you will see that they are not so bad these suggestions


Let me disagree. And I watched his last times games

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby xeneize » 2011 Feb 20, 21:07

hive him 2 in the first match and 3 in the second.... he stay playing really bad now (nose q le pasó porqeu estaba jugando bien hasta el mundial). but he lose a parto of his level

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby xeneize » 2011 Mar 07, 02:58

jorgecavs wrote:jajaja Who said that is faster than Ivan Bella?, gave a dance for those. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Clemente is fast, but it is Bella more. :geek:

is just what I was going to say ...

i continued tell, i think he need a decrease in DEF... 66 in DEF is high for him, he is a ofensive SB and is bad in defense... maybe decrease to 62

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby xeneize » 2011 Mar 19, 20:42

don`t deserves any card?

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Apr 17, 21:21

I think that we should revise his STA, MEN, AGG and RES

I suggest:

Stamina: 92 (-3) Definitely not that he was to be, he isn't right now the untireless runner than before. And definitely he isn't at the top 5 of the world in this aspect.
Response: 77 (-2) Not sure about this, but he is totally retarded to react in gameplay situations, 79 is now really generous with him
Agility: 83 (+2) 81? :shock: Is really a joke, taking into account his movements and his height and weight
Long Pass Accuracy: 75 (+2) Not that bad crosses, usually he gives front changes (cambios de frente) and does it decently
Aggression: ? Taking into account future 86-85-84 values to Ferrari, Papa and Mareque respectivly, we should determinate a value for him
Mentality: 82 (-2) With the world class value of 92 and Mentality in yellow, he doesn't get tired in the game, and will be better represented as the real life
Team Work: ?

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby xeneize » 2011 Apr 17, 21:35

vickingo_73 wrote:Stamina: 92 (-3) Definitely not that he was to be, he isn't right now the untireless runner than before. And definitely he isn't at the top 5 of the world in this aspect.

AGREE, but maybe 93
vickingo_73 wrote:Response: 77 (-2) Not sure about this, but he is totally retarded to react in gameplay situations, 79 is now really generous with him

AGREE definitely, is very bad in read the game
vickingo_73 wrote:Agility: 83 (+2) 81? :shock: Is really a joke, taking into account his movements and his height and weight

AGREE
vickingo_73 wrote:Long Pass Accuracy: 75 (+2) Not that bad crosses, usually he gives front changes (cambios de frente) and does it decently

mmm... could be agree with 75 MAX (i'm not sure)
vickingo_73 wrote:Aggression: ? Taking into account future 86-85-84 values to Ferrari, Papa and Mareque respectivly, we should determinate a value for him

i'm not sure, is difficult to put him a number in AGG now, in some matches pass constantly to attack and in others pass really in a few oportunities. i suggest wait
vickingo_73 wrote:Mentality: 82 (-2) With the world class value of 92 and Mentality in yellow, he doesn't get tired in the game, and will be better represented as the real life

AGREE (i can give him a 2 :lol: )
vickingo_73 wrote:Team Work: ?

you suggest a decrease or an increase?

and need a decrease in DEF

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby julgui » 2011 Apr 17, 21:36

vickingo_73 wrote:Stamina: 92
Response: 77
Agility: 83
Long Pass Accuracy: 75


Agree!

vickingo_73 wrote:Mentality: 82 (-2) With the world class value of 92 and Mentality in yellow, he doesn't get tired in the game, and will be better represented as the real life


I do not agree, 84 is fine for Clemente.

vickingo_73 wrote:Aggression: ?
Team Work: ?


I do not see it changing that both attributes, these values ​​are well.

And I add:
Short Pass Accuracy: 76--->74 - It's amazing how a mistake in the passes. This defect was provided. There should be in green. Extremely easy passes are missed with habitual.

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby xeneize » 2011 Apr 17, 21:39

agree in decrease his SPA, really bad always intercepted
i suggest DEF:64 MAX, really is bad in DEF. his best quality always was his style to go to attack, and his DEF always was his worst quality

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby jorgecavs » 2011 Apr 18, 00:05

vickingo_73 wrote:I think that we should revise his STA, MEN, AGG and RES

I suggest:

Stamina: 92 (-3) Definitely not that he was to be, he isn't right now the untireless runner than before. And definitely he isn't at the top 5 of the world in this aspect.
Response: 77 (-2) Not sure about this, but he is totally retarded to react in gameplay situations, 79 is now really generous with him
Agility: 83 (+2) 81? :shock: Is really a joke, taking into account his movements and his height and weight
Long Pass Accuracy: 75 (+2) Not that bad crosses, usually he gives front changes (cambios de frente) and does it decently
Aggression: ? Taking into account future 86-85-84 values to Ferrari, Papa and Mareque respectivly, we should determinate a value for him
Mentality: 82 (-2) With the world class value of 92 and Mentality in yellow, he doesn't get tired in the game, and will be better represented as the real life
Team Work: ?

I Agree 100%, TW and AGG is cool like this now.

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Apr 18, 00:09

And may be his TS could be better, IMO he's faster than Messi

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby juan92 » 2011 Apr 18, 19:09

hes a weak player, but watching other players i found that patito rodriguez got 75 of BB and maxi moralez got 78 of BB, maybe he is not stronger as maxi, but 100 % sure that he is stronger than patricio. does clemente is underrated on BB?? or patito rodriguez is a little bit overrated ?? maybe(not really sure) clemente deserves 75-76 of BB just maybe....

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Re: Clemente RODRÍGUEZ

Postby xeneize » 2011 Apr 18, 19:18

jorgecavs wrote:definitely, maybe:
Clemente: 75
Rodriguez: 74

:lol: what?

i think he can have 75 ( pone huevo en el cuerpo a cuerpo, and sometimes he win in that)
then the all suggestions are:
DEF: 64?
STA: 92
RESP: 77
AGI: 83
SPA: 74
LPA : 74/75
MENT: 82/84 (i prefer 82)

MAYBE 1 point more in TS?
AGG:?

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