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Xabi Alonso

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby furymaker » 2012 May 27, 00:46

probably because Real Madrid is not on same level as Barcelona in terms of TW , not even close ?
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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby TheTrueSeto » 2012 Jun 10, 08:34

Wait a second, why does he not have the Passing*?

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Cruel » 2012 Jun 16, 16:48

I think that his Injury Tolerance should be changed to A - I have a hard time remembering a single injury, while he is one of the most exploited players in Madrid. And even when he received some serious tackle from someone that looked dangerous, he was ok and played next game.

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Fixer » 2012 Jun 16, 16:57

Xabi is exposed to more than some think, I might agree with IT A.

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Diego » 2012 Jun 16, 20:06

Add another agree to that.

Imo we are too harsh rating it - ozil could also be a candidate for it.

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Marvin Martin » 2012 Jun 16, 20:15

I also agree with that .

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Korinov » 2012 Jun 16, 21:20

Also considering he survived that certain De Jong's tackle and kept playing, yeah, IT:A seems reasonable :mrgreen:

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Los Muchachos » 2012 Jul 06, 07:31

I still cant get why his SPA is 89. His SPA can be easily in oranges. Maybe 90-91 but IMO he doesnt shows 86 TECH. So i think his TECH can be decreased upto 84. Othervalues are nice.

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby bitz » 2012 Jul 06, 08:09

I'm not sure about *Talisman. IMO it is for those players that tend to carry the ball before looking for a pass, if you look at the players that Konami gave *Talisman they all have higher dribbling stats. Xabi is rarely a ball carrier, more like a first time passer.

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Los Muchachos » 2012 Jul 06, 09:18

bitz wrote:I'm not sure about *Talisman. IMO it is for those players that tend to carry the ball before looking for a pass, if you look at the players that Konami gave *Talisman they all have higher dribbling stats. Xabi is rarely a ball carrier, more like a first time passer.


Absolutely. IMO Talisman is the person who dribbles with the ball and always looks for the pass and thus drives the entire team forward. Whereas Xabi only passes. He does not like to move with the ball . So Talisman should be removed.

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Albo7 » 2012 Jul 06, 10:03

That's exactly what bitz said?

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby JuventusNelCuore » 2012 Jul 06, 19:16

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bitz wrote:I'm not sure about *Talisman. IMO it is for those players that tend to carry the ball before looking for a pass, if you look at the players that Konami gave *Talisman they all have higher dribbling stats. Xabi is rarely a ball carrier, more like a first time passer.


Absolutely. IMO Talisman is the person who dribbles with the ball and always looks for the pass and thus drives the entire team forward. Whereas Xabi only passes. He does not like to move with the ball . So Talisman should be removed.


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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Korinov » 2012 Jul 06, 20:57

Agree about removing talisman, also about higher SPA (91 is ok for me). I also believe he needs more DEF, nothing drastic, 76 could be fine... does a lot of defensive work and recovers quite a bunch of balls in pretty much all matches. He's really improved in that aspect throughout the years.

Oh, by the way, *Middle Shooting suits him pretty well. Dunno why we deleted it. It has nothing to do with Long Ranger (which he currently doesn't deserve).

Edit2: his leap is a bit better than this.

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby jurgens » 2012 Jul 06, 21:13

hes slower than this

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Korinov » 2012 Jul 06, 21:15

I'd rather say he doesn't run (on & off the ball) at all. Any ideas? Lower TS? Lower DS?

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Mr. Evans » 2012 Jul 06, 21:20

@Albo :lol:

He's faster than Xavi, that's for sure. Faster than Busquets too. I actually think his speed stats are fine. DS could go lower though, to see him make run on the ball is so rare. And he could probably use lower AGI.
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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby jurgens » 2012 Jul 06, 21:21

I don't think he needs higher def, his acc is really bad

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Fixer » 2012 Jul 06, 23:44

Mr. Evans wrote:
He's faster than Xavi, that's for sure. Faster than Busquets too. I actually think his speed stats are fine. DS could go lower though, to see him make run on the ball is so rare. And he could probably use lower AGI.
Agree with Korinov's previous post.


The truth Is that I don't even see him faster than either of those 2, nor shows any kind of speed as much as (considering he doesn't do too) Busquets neither. Agree with lower DS, much lower. About agi I think he's OK as It Is, probably.

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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Los Muchachos » 2012 Jul 07, 04:59

Fixer wrote:
Mr. Evans wrote:
He's faster than Xavi, that's for sure. Faster than Busquets too. I actually think his speed stats are fine. DS could go lower though, to see him make run on the ball is so rare. And he could probably use lower AGI.
Agree with Korinov's previous post.


The truth Is that I don't even see him faster than either of those 2, nor shows any kind of speed as much as (considering he doesn't do too) Busquets neither. Agree with lower DS, much lower. About agi I think he's OK as It Is, probably.


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Re: Xabi ALONSO

Postby Korinov » 2012 Jul 07, 10:58

Updated. I've left TS at 74, I believe him to be faster than both Xavi and Busquets on long runs (even if he doesn't display it often). His goal against France in the Euro quarter-finals could be considered as an example... honestly I doubt Xavi would have got there to begin with. But I've downgraded ACC to 70, as he's quite slow in the first metres. I've also sent DS under 70s.

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