Name: Giorgio CHIELLINI



Club: Juventus F.C.
Number: 3
Position: CB, SB
Nationality: Italian
Age: 24 (14/08/1984)

Foot: L
Side: L

Length: 186
Weight: 76

Attack: 68
Defence: 86
Balance: 93
Stamina: 84
Top Speed: 84
Acceleration: 80
Response: 86
Agility: 76
Dribble Accuracy: 72
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 74
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Acc.: 77
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 67
Shot Power: 84
Shot Technique: 71
Free Kick Accuracy: 63
Curling: 73
Header: 87
Jump: 84
Technique: 72
Aggression: 70
Mentality: 87
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 81
Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot frequency: 5
Consistency: 7

INDEX CARDS:
S07 – Man Marking
S08 – Slide Tackle
S13 – Long Throw

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
*Marking
*Sliding
*Long Throw


Giorgio Chiellini’s rise from promising youngster to one of the best defenders in world football has been as explosively fast as a Usain Bolt 100m sprint.

Fifteen or so months ago, with Juventus just having returned to Serie A following their Calciopoli-imposed exile, the 24-year-old was still playing in his natural left back position. Then, a host of injuries and other problems in the Bianconeri backline forced coach Claudio Ranieri to try Chiellini in a central defensive role, alongside forgotten man Nicola Legrottaglie.
The rest, as they say, is history.

Chiellini fits all the requirements of the modern defender. As strong as a bull, brilliant in the air, and fast on the deck, it is no surprise that both Chelsea and Arsenal have been linked with making a move for the player.

His finest hour came in the quarter final penalty shoot-out defeat to eventual winners Spain. With a depleted midfield, due to the absence of Rino Gattuso and Andrea Pirlo, the Azzurri had to endure 120 minutes of wave after wave of Spanish attacks. However, despite this, Luis Aragones’ men did not test goalkeeper Buffon all night, and this was all due to Chiellini, who put in one of the great Italian defensive performances to completely snuff out both David Villa and Fernando Torres.

It all ended in tears for Italy, as Spain won on penalties, following a goalless draw, but Chiellini’s heroic efforts in this quarter final will live long in the memory.

NOW SOMETHING FUNNY :
His hardman image is certainly not without substance, or even the odd humorous story. During a pre-season friendly against Hamburg at the Emirates Stadium, in August, Chiellini jumped into a tackle, and somehow managed to injure two players at the same time – one being his team-mate (Christian Molinaro), and the other an opponent (Mohamed Zidan). More infamously though, Chiellini ruled Italy captain Fabio Cannavaro out of Euro 2008, just days before the tournament started, following a late tackle in training. As will be revealed though, he would go on to redeem himself in Austria and Switzerland.

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Materazzi & Chiellini jumping for a ball towards the end of the match and Chiellini wins.

said long time ago that his leap is great.. and he is getting better and better in timings and aerial coordination.

Could i ask why his DA and TEC(both 72) are rated so bad? I know he seems clumsy but his trapping is really solid and his DA is at least on par with some offensive SB (his former role)

one header won (by positioning,not even by timing,cause Materazzi leaped higher than him hitting his nose on Chiellini's upper head) in a defensive situation(=advantaged in game terms)......if we are really rating this,i think Materazzi's and Chiellini's Jump should be very similar,cause the first leaped higher than the first one(being also taller).

I think his ATK could be revised... he's something like the best set piece hitter in the last year and he's starting to go up even on non-set pieces... and quite good at that (not midfielder good, though)... he's actually -4 from the top CB ladder, while I think he could be at the top or eventually less far from it...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qigqqFCzmhI&feature=sub[/youtube]

so:

attack @ 68
DA @ 74
tech @ 75
TW @ 83
Jump @ ?

I can agree with those.

Suprised you forgot your header value from before which has been left at 87. Thought you might push more on that Crespo argument.

Jump I think is alright at 84, Legro has been at 83 for a while and last season was getting serious air jordan leaps on set plays - I thought him to be superior to Chiellini.


NOTE: After seeing zuo succesfully campaigning for weight changes to some players, I would like to bring up possibly updating Chiellini's Weight from current malnourished 76 to what was reported on a UEFA site at 87 for EURO 2008 http://www1.uefa.com/tournament/players ... index.html link.

As with Marchisio we know Juventus can dither in updating the stats of players, and many other sites may just be copying the juve sites figure rather than independtly weighing him, really why would UEFA make up or inflate his real life weight for the 2008 tournament?

Anyways obviously if the weight changed then I can see BB entering into the 89-90 region with room for discussion, as I am unsure the effect of KG in realtion to PES points.

Actually I was even thinking on raising BB he's just TOO dominant everytime he goes up a little, he wins every ball with sheer force really impressive. Even if the actual stat could be enough for that...

though, I feel the actual set is of a great defender, while he's something more. I don't know what could be suggested to make that evident, though.

Well you were thinking on a BB raise for weight 76 kg right? But if we raise to the UEFA 87 ks source I found, then a raise might not be necessary.

I know what you mean about his dominace in shoving people around , and getting away with it 90% of the time to boot! Like last year when Drogba 188kg/88cm 94 BB gave him little problem physically, while right next to Chiellini poor Molinaro was struggling to stay on his feet against the Ivorian.

Chiellini is really slender,i really believe his weight is probably still like this. his legs are not overmuscledd,his chest is totally 'plain'....he's just large and thin. i can agree with Juve fans that last year he was able to fight against Drogba....probably id swap at least a point (or two) of his Agility,in his Balance...

yes, he's really thin, absolutely not 87KG anyway.. i think we could wait for a more precise and realistic number before touching anything. And his AGI is just at the very least value for a player of his size/skill, BAL could stay here or go up and maybe add 1 point to both DEF and REA, but those are just a cosmetic change.

I can't believe how you gave him only 86 in Defence where F.Cannavaro has 90. Chiellini is one of the three best defenders in Serie A (with Nesta and Thiago Silva) and should have Defence at least 90. F.Cannavaro is far from his old performances, he doesn't deserve more than 85 in defence.
I would rise his aerial abilities too, he has amazing aerial skills.

If you look above you'll see that we are debating on an update.. anyway DEF is not the only stat to take in account to build a great defender.

ok, sure it's not the only stat, but for a CB is the most important.
hehe.. i was always shocked when seeing the stats of juventus defenders, especially the past season.

Id agree with the TECH/DA update. And Attack too.
And guys,Chiellini for being just 76 kgs IS stiff imo. but he's also really,really strong for his weight.
Probably taking him down 75 AGI would cause a major weakness,but for sure he's not a 77 agi.
Just for say,Chiellini at the moment is on par with Nesta(but i suggested nesta something higher).
I wouldnt disagree even to a 93 Balance for Chiellni.....but then...i would be REALLY conservative with his jump value,cause the combo of the two stats would really be an overpowering.
for explain,id like to think that we address some part of his good leaping in his step from a 92 to a 93 Balance,cause the difference is sensible. this said,i can say that people like Borriello and Pazzini are much or less at the level of Chiellini in terms of leaping(they're all on the same value) but they got an incredible disadvantage in their BB ratings. After this,Chiellini's jump could even be an 85,but higher than that we are going to make a monster.

Today he did not make a case that his TECH/DA is at 75/74 level, also remembering when he gave that goal away to Roma trying to dribble out of own box...:/ his DA at 72 seems fine to me after further thinking on it. Though I still agree to the Attack and TW values.

Well if everyone is fine with him on 76kg, then BB to 93 is not out of the question, though there no longer is an Ibrahimovic to test him on a benchmark .

Those would not be cosmetic to myself - and would be too much of an improvment overall to the stats, he is playing solidly considering the muck that is juventus at the moment, but not at that sort of level.

T.F.7; Cannavaro I think has like Consisitency 5 (could be 4 if current stats remaine) to emulate he can be good sometimes (not this season though), but mostly he is off his game. But I would rather focus on re-examining Cannavaro to a bit lower standard than shooting Chiellini up.

Problem is he is stiff often, but on some occasions like Alex_10 mentioned he can be 'nimble' on - even on the ball he did a nice turn or two trying to lose players when near opponents box. His tackling is also not too poor in getting to feet to ball in a timely fashion and avoiding a foul being called (partly with RES in timing, but also good physically at throwing himself in to it). I could go either way in view of his Agility really 75 or 77..ahh so since first post is 76 then I guess I am good at 76.

Sort of summary:

Attack 68 (rfuna,Oriello,zuo)
DA 74 (rfuna) 72[same](oriello?) 73(zuo)
Agility 75 (zuo) 77 (Alex_10) same (Oriello)
BB 93 (with weight still 76 kgs) Agrees (zuo,Defrenz,Oriello?,Alex_10?)
TW 83 (rfuna,Oriello) 82 or same(zuo)

Reason of my disagee about the TW: Chiellini a good number of times seems to be an old-like type of defender throwing away the ball.(currently Cannavaro is on 82 TW but i suggested an higher number). Sometimes Chiellini shows 'un-organized' passing,and carries the ball a tad.(Chivu also is an 82 TW). Cannavaro is far better then Chiellini in terms to manage the line,being available to the pass in case of help(EXPECIALLY with the keeper,Cannavaro follows and helps the keepers in a way that really a tad players are able).

If a DA raise is really needed, in can say that 73's Belmonte is better, but if Burdisso and Biava are on 73 Chiellini could stay on 73 too.

Added Index Cards.

I think that a +1 in BAL is just something cosmetic. Ibra is 19KG/9cm/-2BB and Drogba 12kg/2cm/+2BB.. Both of them could have bulldoze Chiellini in any occasion, a thing that i really don't remember. Moreover, they are both over average player in all technical departments, with a sublime ability to gain and retain possesion. In PES terms they are almost unstoppable for the vast majority of the defenders here in the database. But Chiello succeeded in the strenuous task to manage them, not perfectly but I remember really few players doing a better work on Drogba or Ibra. But he managed both them with skill and with a good hand of power, not just power, something out of his capability vs such players.
If we want to bump his BB to make him a better overall defender, then the only way should be an over-the-top value, something in the fashion of 95/96. The point is that it will not represent his style in an accurate way, his tackling skill and positioning has massively improved since his last upgrade. He was an error prone defender, but this year he could be on pair with players like Vidic or even Nesta in terms of blunders. Without him the defence is completely lost, even Cannavaro which seems to be no more capable of managing a defence!
In my head a small bump in BB is a good idea (+2) with a +2 in DEF and with RES as it is now.
And yes he still has trouble with small and nimble players.
About TW I could see a little reduction in Cannavaro's TW, He's no more the leader he once was, instead of putting down Chiello's.

To effectively tackle a player in pes when Defending,is not necessary being really stronger than him. im pretty sure that with a +3 Orange Balance Chiellini would battle and win +19/+9cm ibra and definitly battle with +12/+2cm +1 Orange Drogba. Going too up we'll risk to make him too dominant,expecially with low size players....but not because he isnt! because in the game with too much difference the contact begin to seem unreal,with a player moved away totally while just touched by the other one.

And id like to suggest also an old note that i already talked about, his WFF to 5.