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Guélor Kanga

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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby Hostafler99 » 2016 Jul 25, 14:40

Good set. But is his SPA better than LPA?
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby VUKDS » 2016 Jul 26, 20:32

Hostafler99 wrote:Good set. But is his SPA better than LPA?

i'll pay attention on that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG2_ls0dsyw
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby Hostafler99 » 2016 Jul 29, 22:56

He deserves that SPA, it shouldn't be lower, but he also showed some nice lofted passes, like that assist to Katai against Valletta. Maybe I was wrong, maybe SPA should be better than LPA, but we will see, he played just four games for Red Star.
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby VUKDS » 2016 Sep 10, 17:58

This guy basically doesn't stop, he is all over the place, incredibly supportive player. I am sure that he deserves TW upgrade, only thing that bothers me is PES related. For example, as AM he will always be moving into the box, and as CM he will be much more serious at the defending, and he actually doesn't have none of these roles atm.
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby VUKDS » 2017 Feb 18, 18:20

He has a potential for nice shot, but man, his shooting is just patetic at 90% of time. It's like he is total amateur when it come to shooting. Shot against Ludogorets (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUv6d_SKH8s)was nice, for example, but when it comes to consistancy and quality of 90% of his shots, it's just terrible.
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby VUKDS » 2017 Feb 25, 20:13

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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby VUKDS » 2017 Mar 13, 21:57

Quantity of his movement is for the red area, but its quality is for green at best. Africa lives in him, in every aspect. I will perhaps write a longer post about him and try to make some things more realistic.
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby Sergio1990 » 2017 Mar 14, 11:54

VUKDS wrote:Quantity of his movement is for the red area, but its quality is for green at best. Africa lives in him, in every aspect. I will perhaps write a longer post about him and try to make some things more realistic.

Why is his EP so low? Really fast turns, closer to orange. Like Mathieu Valbuena.
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby Relja » 2017 Mar 14, 12:21

This guy is a big problem of Red Star, no doubts.

With no irony, i actually didn't believe when i was reading from the guys from (mentioned :lol: ) forum that his movement is actually more of a problem then a good thing bc i never watched zvezdas games, but after watching the derby and some details from Vojvodina game i realized all his flaws.

As an AMF he's constantly going all over the place to pick up the ball, leaving his area empty and actually act selfish and before everything tactically very, very immature. No matter how tactically inept and stupid (and he fairly is) Božović is, at some points of the last seasons every red star player looked at least properly told what part of the pitch to occupy and when.

With Kanga on the field is quite a different thing and that guy at the age of 26 is just unable to tactically improve noticeably. With his natural ability (which is quite big, really gifted player hell score and assist against low quality Serbian teams but without a shadow of doubt, red star should get rid of him ASAP with Božović, because this guy is the biggest enemy of systematic football since Fabricio Dornellas, and a Serbian team in Europe jus't can't aford playing a defensive liability, tactically inept and fairly stupid player such as Kanga (ask Ludogorets fans). Unfortunately (or not if u ask me) hes one of those that come to Serbian league, impress with technical quality, but u soon realize why was he dumped from russian average team at the age of 26 (unlike for instance Donald and Everton who are different class). When i say that Leonardo can't play serious football, i mean that 10x for Guelor.
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby VUKDS » 2017 Mar 14, 12:32

I will see what to do with this set when I find the time. I am planning to make some bigger analyse and perhaps take a look at a couple of games in the next few weeks(after I finish with Maras). He is hard to rate due to his specificness and some experiments are gonna be needed.

Sergio, I believe you that he has it, but he doesn't use his agility here, really. Some people might would have given him even a high greens. I will write more words about it in the following weeks. I'd appreciate if you post some videos which are showing his agility from the Rostov period.
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby Sergio1990 » 2017 Mar 14, 13:06

Guelor Kanga in Rostov period https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPrccGzGLsQ
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby Relja » 2017 Mar 18, 12:16

This guys teamwork is one of the weirdest and toughest tasks on the psd.

He is moving a lot all over the place, most of the time badly, but it's a fact. Wherever the ball is hes there to grab it. But, that is one of main reasons why hes overall a rubish player.

In this system, Red Stars AMF should be closer to goal, trying to exploit the space created by a CF much more.
Not a wannabe deep lying playmaker. Whenever i se that guy moving around, leaving the position of number 10 empty, i wanna cry. In smaller games, thats not the problem to win even with that, but it leaves systematic problems. But in bigger game that cause loads of crap! First of all, against Partizan, not to mention clubs like Sassuolo for instance :lol: hes just useless. Why? Because, Donald and Le Tallec are super defensive in those cases, and when Kanga leaves the space, Donald can't go forward, (making it just a bit more understandable) He makes a full mess, making a fucking huge distance between him and DMS and Cf and wingers. But thats not the end! Hes doing shit even in the final third with going on the sides every second, but herea the same problem. HE IS THE ONE WHO IS SUPPOSED TO ROAM INTO.THE BOX after crosses of wingers or fullbacks primarly. And then, the same problem. Donald is again not allowed to roam. Again terrible 'spacing' and again one player destroying it all.

Seriously, no hate at all, i love some red star players but this guy is one of those i hate the most as a type. Hes DESTROYING any little glimpse of team footballl there and he s a so called playmaker.

I think theres a proper way to make his set better. First, to destroy his attack and def. 73 is super generous for him for att. Making stupid decisions all the time, actually doing more of a bad than good things for overall attacking game. For a guy whos good enough to use his properly rated passing stats (altough his SPA is kinda variable) and technique to play good against Bačka and Javor, i think 68 69 for att is more than enough.

Second, he actually made a 49 for def SUPER HIGH for him :lol: Not just tactically unable to play serious defence but he doesnt want to play it. DEF awareness 0 should be added for players like him. Just a non existant in defence. Pure 0. He should have the average stats of a lazy centre forward for defence (30s)

And there we go, a teamwork. One of main things related to this stat is movement. Ok, we'll decrease his attack and def for quite a lot, but he can't sit on yellows! Something in range of 77 78 would be fair considering his low att, low def and maybe lower mentality.

Playmaking should be removed. Not bc he isnt the one, but the playmaking star is suggesting that the player is a specialist in making the team play
Kanga aint one, even though he think so. Same with Talisman. Does.he drives the team.forward? Against any decent club? No.

Basically. Att 69 - def 38 - TW 77 - MENT 64 + SPA 82 - SPS - 82 LPA - 83 LPS - 80 DA 82 etc + removing *Playmaking *Talisman replicates the player whos able to score and assist against Milovan Milovićs defence at best IN CONSISTENT fashion. Thats Kanga

He is a potential though, really is, but leaving africa at the age of 23 is just... i mean, hes tactically super bad and its obvious why. Very naturally gifted player with either TERRIBLE decisions in career either terrible agent cause this guy is something, not a random african talent, but its impossible to play football properly on higher level than Serbian league if you leave Afica at 23. Hes that tactically inept.
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby VUKDS » 2017 Mar 20, 22:31

He'll perhaps get something like -20 for the Mentality and the Defence, and that are perhaps gonna be the biggest changes in this set, with some other, not that big changes, like TW decrease, Response decrease, slight Attack decrease, etc.
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby Hostafler99 » 2017 Mar 20, 23:40

He has the ability to be the best player in the league, but he's an idiot and tactically awful.. Against Cukaricki he had a few misplaced passes, his SPA can be really good at times but he's inconsistent.
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby Sergio1990 » 2017 Mar 25, 17:53

What a goal :o
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby VUKDS » 2017 Mar 25, 20:26

Sergio1990 wrote:What a goal :o

Yeah man, great shot. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5g6xm ... play_sport

I will quote myself, and I have to say that he is showing really nice shooting in the last 3 weeks or so.
He has a potential for nice shot, but man, his shooting is just patetic at 90% of time. It's like he is total amateur when it come to shooting. Shot against Ludogorets (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUv6d_SKH8s)was nice, for example, but when it comes to consistancy and quality of 90% of his shots, it's just terrible.
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby VUKDS » 2017 Apr 01, 01:23

I've updated him, really difficult player to make. I've basically did everything what I've said, but went with a slightly better Mentality and lower Attack.
He has an excellent passing abilities and is covering a huge amount of ground. Problem is that he fucks up something, tactically or technically, at least a couple of times per game. That's the reason why I've lowered his Attack, he can make some really amateur mistakes with the ball. Yes, he's got an excellent passing abilities. He is an assist machine for this league, guy has 13 assists in the 16 games he's played and has a big chance to make 20 till the end of the season, which would make him be one of the best assistants in the league history. Ilic didn't make it, Jovetic didn't make it, Ninkovic didn't make it, but Kanga is gonna make it. :D He can send a lofted passes ala Iniesta and even some balls from a bigger distance, but after that he will fuck up a three basic counter attacks with an awful choises. He's got a great instict for a killer passes but isn't the most intelligent player nor a playmaker asides of that... Which is perfectly logical, as he's left Gabon in the age of 23. I also have to mention that his intelligence affects on the games against the tougher opponents. When he is playing against an organized teams, he has a huge problems to make something concrete. But when opponent gives him some space and enables him a counter attack, he is dangerous as hell. Man, him and Ruiz would have been like a nightmare for anyone if we'd be using them right in the tougher games.
Sergio was mentioning agility. I guess that he has it but just doesn't use it. Higher value would make him look unrealistic in game, especially when he's got the ball. I've also lowered his DS and TS for that reason, not like he is gonna be slow or anything with these values. He's perhaps a point or two faster but it's not a big difference, he doesn't need more than 77 to replicate him properly.

Mentality, Tw, Form and Awareness - I was planning to give him extremely low Mentality but that would perhaps basically destroy him and make him inactive in-game. He is changing a few faces through one game. For example, he is gonna play 20 top class minutes, and then he will fuck up everything in the next 40, but make a crazy shot or assist in the last minute. :lol: It's just him, he is totally crazy.. You'd expect him to play three bad and one good game, but that's not the case.
His Teamwork is difficult to replicate. He moves A LOT but that movement is more a CM or Box to Box most of the time. For example, in the first half season he was constantly leaving his position and going back to the DM to pick the ball, which was a huge problem. At the moment, it's not so problematic but he is still far from being perfect. It's noticeable that Grof was working with him. You are gonna see him making an old tactical mistakes, but not that frequently. Some of ideas are that he's supposed to give a support to the wings more often(especially the left one), to go into the opponents penalty box more often, etc. As I've said, even by now you could see him doing a stupid tactical things and that is surely gonna cost you in the tougher games but he isn't THAT bad tactically to say he is the worst player in the team, as some people are saying. In the end, I've decided to give him a CM as the primary position and made Teamwork just a slightly lower. Everything beyond this would make him be too static, which he's certainly not. Quantity of his movement is for a red area but quality is debatable and we need to make a balance.
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby Relja » 2017 Apr 12, 14:08

I hope Grof will rest him against Borac tomorrow, because for Partizan, Kanga in starting 11 is very important, because he can't properly peform against us due to his terrible tactical ineption and overall stupidness.
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Re: Guélor Kanga

Postby VUKDS » 2017 Apr 18, 20:50

great analyze
https://youtu.be/XZJjCHf11w4?t=98
https://youtu.be/XZJjCHf11w4?t=119

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