Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 | 2013-2014 | 2015-2017

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Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 | 2013-2014 | 2015-2017

Postby PES Stats Database » 2013 Nov 25, 07:53

2012-2013

Club: Tottenham Hotspur



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Re: Gareth Bale 2012-2013

Postby vinnie » 2013 Nov 25, 08:00

note; some of the cards and stars can't be given because of the editor bugs.
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Re: Gareth Bale 2012-2013

Postby jurgens » 2013 Nov 25, 08:01

goodjob moving this... if you got the time.. do thiago too ;)
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Re: Gareth Bale 2012-2013

Postby Korinov » 2013 Nov 25, 09:35

vinnie wrote:note; some of the cards and stars can't be given because of the editor bugs.


Just put none of them in the editor and add them in the post, under the set ;)
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Re: Gareth Bale 2012-2013

Postby Adrien » 2013 Nov 25, 10:37

For the card just put the number of the P-card and S-card of PES 2011 that you can see in the stats ranking ladder. So we could see the card you gave in the PSD section on "old generation view".
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Re: Gareth Bale 2012-2013

Postby vinnie » 2013 Nov 26, 06:49

Korinov wrote:
vinnie wrote:note; some of the cards and stars can't be given because of the editor bugs.


Just put none of them in the editor and add them in the post, under the set ;)

i tried this, but when i previewd it, it was so goddamn ugly i just exited the window :lol:

Adrien wrote:For the card just put the number of the P-card and S-card of PES 2011 that you can see in the stats ranking ladder. So we could see the card you gave in the PSD section on "old generation view".

put it where though? underneath like korinov suggested? or another method? :?:
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013

Postby Korinov » 2013 Nov 29, 02:03

Just think of it as a temporary solution. The kind of temporary solutions that tend to last years until a problem is really fixed :lol:
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 & 2013-2014

Postby Ramindbroken » 2014 Dec 17, 21:48

I have to desagree with the EP value he has in the 2012-2013 season. Back then in Tottenham he was a little more agile, sure more than 76. He can have even 80 in 12-13 season. Right now is okay in 76.
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 & 2013-2014

Postby vinnie » 2014 Dec 17, 21:52

the value is fine, the set is the same he had during that season, we just moved it to classics when he transferred to madrid. I always played bale on 75 agi even for his spurs time. I never thought he was very agile. He wasn't really more agile then compared to now, maybe even less so, being more stiff at spurs.
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 & 2013-2014

Postby SquidwardKebab95 » 2015 May 15, 23:16

Growth type ?
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 & 2013-2014

Postby Fantasista » 2015 May 16, 11:48

SquidwardKebab95 wrote:Growth type ?

It's too early to rate it with full confidence. Let's wait ~5 years and see how his carrer will go on
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 & 2013-2014

Postby 2headedEagle » 2015 May 16, 13:51

I see these sets completely wrong ,
We all know that Bale at Tottenham > Bale at Madrid .
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 & 2013-2014

Postby Ramindbroken » 2016 Aug 10, 17:25

I still think he was clearly more agile back at Tottenham. Probably not more than 77, but still. Also his DS/ACC/TS combo looked better back then, maybe because he used it more usually but he looked faster to me back then, maybe his TS was the same but his ACC/DS looked better, probably ACC closer to 90's back then, there's no way that velues are the other way around.

Also his SP could easily be 87-88 for his Tottenham set and SA 88 as it is right now, his shooting was almost the same, maybe now he deserves one or two points more in SP (89, as he has now), but not more than that.
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 & 2013-2014

Postby vinnie » 2017 Jun 22, 01:32

Ramindbroken wrote:I still think he was clearly more agile back at Tottenham. Probably not more than 77, but still.


i've seen you bring this up, and my honest opinion is that he was no more than a 75 at tottenham. Really, i find that he became clearly more agile as well as a better dribbler since moving to madrid- maybe his performance isn't as good, but he's neither in a team nor league that suits his strengths. i think he improved at madrid as he could feel that amongst his teammates he had to get better and perfect his potential to be able to cut it, and so far he has barely cut it.

2headedEagle wrote:I see these sets completely wrong ,
We all know that Bale at Tottenham > Bale at Madrid .


again i can see why this seems to be true, but my opinion is the opposite- he's clearly a better player now and it reflects when he performs at the national stage- but at tottenham he was the star and the man the team was built around under villas-boa; he was played as an attacking midfielder/ striker after all and given free reign to shoot from anywhere and take every free kick. so of course in a set up and situation like that he would appear to be better than what he performs like now, but it's not a matter of being a worse player, but being a better player in a team with many players even better than him overall- and getting less chances to be the star.

Anyone can go read the comments in Bale's thread, alot of those that watched him didn't see him above an 85 Attack at his best season in 2012/13, it was only on the basis of scoring so many goals that in the end by consensus he got a kick up to 90 attack, but not too surprisingly to many, when he started playing in la liga, his relative one dimensional awareness and playing parametres became fairly obvious almost immediately, and he dropped to an attack value around 85 again- until his very good 2015/16 form where he went back to 87 or 88.


anyways i came here just to share the feeling i've had about bale's top speed. up to last year in 2016 prior to his latest spats with injury, i just came to feel more and more that no one impresses me with top speed like Bale does. He doesn't have the greatest 5 yard burst, and he needs a bit more time than other speedsters to get up to speed- but once he gets to his full stride, he just blows everyone out of the water and steamrolls past any racers. I've watched aubameyang, bellerin, adama traore (what an amazing speed dribbler he is by the way- one of the few red/fringe red ts/acc/ds players, or at least he was), none of them are rivals to Bale's top speed in my opinion. I don't know if anyone agrees, top speed can be one of those tricky subjects to objectively judge, but in my view Bale consistently hits and maintains a top speed that i can't compare to anyone else. I can't say that for sure about him post 2016, but from that season back to 2013/14, he was untouchable in top speed in my opinion.
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 & 2013-2014

Postby Korinov » 2017 Jun 22, 09:11

vonie, do you think we should merge these two sets then? My knowledge of his Tottenham era is lacking, but the differences between these two seasons may be negligible. These two sets are almost identical anyway. Some tweaks could be applied of course.
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 & 2013-2014

Postby vinnie » 2017 Jun 23, 00:33

well when the 2014 set was added i did find it an indistinct difference when it comes to his ability comparing his last tottenham and first madrid seasons.. but he certainly plays in very different positions and it's hard to represent that in one set. im not sure the best way to arrange the eras for bale, the key differences and changes in his madrid era begins about late 2014/2015.
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 | 2013-2014 | 2015-2017

Postby vonkomn » 2017 Dec 08, 01:33

Shouldn't the Tottenham set modified so it fit with the others? The gap in Jump is weird and I don't think Bale had a better first touch at Tottenham than what he has now.

Maybe a way to show the difference between Bale's style at Tottenham and at Madrid would be making Spurs Bale default position AM? Even though he would start in the wing he would often end up playing right behind the striker in a central position.
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 | 2013-2014 | 2015-2017

Postby Fixer » 2017 Dec 08, 01:38

The jump thing was due to him becoming a consistant header threat and goalscorer at Madrid.
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 | 2013-2014 | 2015-2017

Postby vonkomn » 2017 Dec 08, 02:01

Fixer wrote:The jump thing was due to him becoming a consistant header threat and goalscorer at Madrid.


Wouldn't also a gap in header also be useful to demonstrate that? Like giving the Tottenham set low 70's or high 60's number?
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Re: Gareth Bale | 2012-2013 | 2013-2014 | 2015-2017

Postby Fixer » 2017 Dec 08, 02:24

Why though? Each is a different stat
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