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FANTASY DRAFT 2010




Evening, all. After getting Nrby's permission Id thought Id organize this little Fantasy football draft tourney thingy.

We'll use this as a discussion thread, as before we can start there are the issues of the participants, and the cirteria of players allowed.

Ive made a poll, I suppose we could have either every player ever, any player who has played in the 'X' amount of years, or anyone playing today. I personally think every player ever would be more fun but off course there are risks involved with older players where people might not of seen enough of the players to form an opinion. I think it will be at their own risk if people don't know them though.

So what'll it be? Oh, and SIGN UP here, I think 16 participants is enough I may increase it if its popular enough.


RULES

-Basically the participates have to draft a team of 11 players to make a fantasy team. The order in which people make their picks are assigned randomly and once a player has been picked by someone they can't be picked again.

-You can pick players in any positional order, meaning the person before you can pick a Right Winger and you can pick a Left Back in the first round if you desire.

-Each player has a 24 hour time limit to make their pick, When posting your pick please end your pick with stating who is up next. I'll also contact them by PM when its their turn.

-If you miss one of your draft picks, you will have to wait until the end of the draft before filling in your make up choice.

-Once each team is made they will face up to each other in a knock out system ( again assigned randomly) the winner will be decided by PSD members who will vote for the best team. Also an AI vs AI PES match will take place between the two teams where the winner of that match will gain two extra votes.

-Your team can be any formation as long as its realistic e.g You must have one keeper, at least three defenders, 2 midfielders and one striker.


List of Participates so far , again sign in here if you want to play

1. Brezza
2. sencesor
3. CDDRodrigo
4. Agüero
5. scotttt
6. Classical
7. lfc 4 eva
8 HFClub
9. Sekularac
10. Il Codino
11. phil-g2006
12. Fiddy
13. julgui
14. sugarc3
15. Scotty Africa
16. nani1

Good Luck 8-)

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Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:15 pm
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I'm undecided, I think a vote/match combination could work, like the a team gets two extra votes/points to their team if it wins in the simulation match.

I might let the public decide and make another poll being the democratic bastard I am :D

I was hoping people wll be impartial when voting the best team. Like try and think about how the team is structured, does it have the right balance? how well the selected players would work in a team?

I just think if it was purely done through simulated matches people could just put loads of super attackers in their team rather than give it balance and still be able to win in a flukey way in PES. The only way to combat this would be to put more restrictions like keep it to a strict 4-4-2 formation for all teams and they all must have a DM type player in their XI for example.

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Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:24 pm
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Brezza wrote:
I just think if it was purely done through simulated matches people could just put loads of super attackers in their team rather than give it balance and still be able to win in a flukey way in PES. The only way to combat this would be to put more restrictions like keep it to a strict 4-4-2 formation for all teams and they all must have a DM type player in their XI for example.

Really? I don’t think it's an actual problem, I think you must have a balanced team in PES to win anyway, I can’t really see a fantasist attacive 3 2 5 kicking all our asses :? , more like a planed suicide :) , and if so - more power to him. :P

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Squad of 18, if anyone wants all strikers go ahead, he won't win anything like that...

One thing I see with classics is that there is the tendency to score much more, and we use more offensive tactics when with classics.

Brezza, the voting thing he depends on how much people are voting, and I think you are not still aware of the potential voting universe you have in this interesting side-thing here.
Still, if you find a balanced way of doing it, why not? Is just I disregard somehow the pure voting as I always recall the "real life" polls where the best players are always from the last 20 years and whatsover, which means the people's opinions don't necessarly hit the truth

So a classic simulated game has to have some consideration on it.

Drag more people into it, this has to be fun!!!

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sencesor wrote:
Brezza wrote:
I just think if it was purely done through simulated matches people could just put loads of super attackers in their team rather than give it balance and still be able to win in a flukey way in PES. The only way to combat this would be to put more restrictions like keep it to a strict 4-4-2 formation for all teams and they all must have a DM type player in their XI for example.

Really? I don’t think it's an actual problem, I think you must have a balanced team in PES to win anyway, I can’t really see a fantasist attacive 3 2 5 kicking all our asses :? , more like a planed suicide :) , and if so - more power to him. :P


Probably was slightly overdramatic there, people should be able to pick what type of side they want. Its fantasy after all 8-)

I think that the vote + extra points for A.I match win the best way to go to though to make it completly fair. If enough people dont vote the A.I match will still be a deciding factor anyway.

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Fine by me, I really wanted was to know the AI result in the end eh eh

How many needed yet?

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I've seen these before and they look quite cool so I'm in ;)


Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:34 pm
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Count me in blad

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"blad", jez? :lol: u from London :P


Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:46 am
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There are 12 votes but only 9 players

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"blad", jez? :lol: u from London :P

I was high last night and I always end up listening to hip hop when I am so.. :lol: :lol:

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sencesor wrote:
I think you must have a balanced team in PES to win anyway, I can’t really see a fantasist attacive 3 2 5 kicking all our asses :? , more like a planed suicide :) , and if so - more power to him. :P
Actually you can play a formation like that. I used a 3-3-4 formation & won the treble only losing one time in a season you just need a fantastic defence & GK ;)

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Since we add the human factor when playing, it is (not only) a matter of skill and perception on how to play and counter the oponent strategy.

Personally, even if I tried many different tactics troighout all pes, there are two where I exceed myself, and they both use counter-attack as their main strategy

3-5-2
1)with the center fullback a very tall guy, since he is the one who will often go for the aerial changes (if you play with 2 fullbacks in a, let's say, classic 4-4-2 formation, you'll never know if the ball goes really into the middle which one is going to attack the ball). The others 2 fullbacks very quick ones to cover the side midfielders who act as sideback during the defensive process. Zanetti is the role model for my usual sideback/mid

2)with two pure defensive mids to chase and haunt the adversary attackers

3) a classic 10 with great overall abilities, as he will be the guy deciding all the offensive. my main game relies solely on giving the ball to this guy from a *DM recovery or from a *SM running trough the flank from defence. This guy often dribbles, shoots or pass to the strikes

4) 2 strikers who have to be finishing proficient. just that


4-3-3
1) the sidebacks have to defend well. Puyol at sideback is a good example.

2)again two pure defensive mids just to chase. the 3rd member must also know how to defend and chase, but at least has to have good long range shooting. Matthaus the example.

3) the three forwards very quick and dribbling players, since it is all up to them to do the counter.


These are the two tactics I see more suitable for my playing style, they defend with a lot of players and relie on technique and talent to make the difference when attacking since I usually attack in an outnumbered way.

Classical - Catenaccio contester for the Fantasy League!!!

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I'm in ^^, let's do it...

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Count me IN. I also agree that this in order to be more interesting should be done in AI vs AI mode ;)


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5 more left!!

Brezza, you're an influent guy, lure Pavla, Uzair, Oriello, Brondby lov just to name a few good old classic guys :D

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HFClub wrote:
Count me IN. I also agree that this in order to be more interesting should be done in AI vs AI mode ;)


Well... i have an idea if you want... probably you won't like it...

You can create a sub-forum called PSD League or something like that.

Everyone can choose one team. There will be 2 weeks for negociations (you can auction (i don't know if its the correct word, subastar, to create a topic with the name of a player and everyones offers money and the one who puts more takes him).

And then, once everyone has his team ready, every weekend you put your lineup with subs and all that, and we play AI vs. AI with the teams and lineups we created, and we make a Virtual League...

I do that with my friends (www.wefa.creatuforo.com).

So, everyone has ''x'' money to use, we buy and sell players between us and then we play a league af it is a manager game...

Do you like it??

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jez wrote:
A-SK wrote:
"blad", jez? :lol: u from London :P

I was high last night and I always end up listening to hip hop when I am so.. :lol: :lol:


ah, a man after my own heart :mrgreen: a fellow smoker.....
nice one, mate...
let's chat sometime on msn ;)


Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:58 am
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I would like to take part but only if it is current players.

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I think it would be better to just use current players because using any player of any era just makes it become 16 dream teams competing and takes the skill out of the selection process in my opinion.


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On the contraRY, shows your deep knowledge on Football Present Time as well as its History, from where all the roots, influence, examples, dreams and epic moments of Present Football drink from.

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