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Markulur
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 Wesley SNEIJDER
Name: Wesley SNEIJDER Club: F.C. Internazionale MilanoNumber: 10Position: AM* CMNationality: Dutch  Age: 25 (09/06/1984 )Foot: R Side: B Length: 170 cm Weight: 67 kg Attack: 81Defence: 61 Balance: 78Stamina: 84Top Speed: 81Acceleration: 82Response: 84Agility: 86Dribble Accuracy: 85Dribble Speed: 83Short Pass Accuracy: 87Short Pass Speed: 82Long Pass Accuracy: 86Long Pass Speed: 83Shot Accuracy: 80Shot Power: 88Shot Technique: 83Free Kick Accuracy: 89Curling: 90Header: 69 Jump: 73 Technique: 88Aggression: 82Mentality: 83Keeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 87Injury Tolerance: C Condition/Fitness: 7Weak Foot Accuracy: 7Weak Foot Frequency: 5 Consistency: 6 INDEX CARDS:P13 – Long Ranger P17 – Free Roaming S02 – Passer S14 – Quick Turn SPECIAL ABILITIES:*Tactical Dribble *Passing *Middle Shooting [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft4bbzTQDgs[/youtube] [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuZbQVuU7pk[/youtube]
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Ulises
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:37 pm Posts: 851 Location: Gijón, Asturias, España
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
Continuing with the discussion in the other forum about DA and Agility. We agreed that sneijder should be under iniesta in DA and agility so i suggest the following,
DA: 88 Agility: 88
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as_10
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:04 pm Posts: 1490 Location: Figueres, Catalunya
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
agree too i still think his ST should go down 1 point, in par with Agüero  EDIT: isnt condition 5 a bit too low? he doesnt play lots and lots of matches, but this puts him in par with Edmilson!
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Ulises
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:37 pm Posts: 851 Location: Gijón, Asturias, España
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
I think his ST should be even higher, he can shot very very fast and in a small piece of the ground he can get powerfull shots. What i think is overrated is his SP imo 89 is too much
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Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:48 pm Posts: 67
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
Markulur wrote: Ulises wrote: Continuing with the discussion in the other forum about DA and Agility. We agreed that sneijder should be under iniesta in DA and agility so i suggest the following,
DA: 88 Agility: 88 Agree. I agree as well.
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spinaL
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
Ulises wrote: I think his ST should be even higher, he can shot very very fast and in a small piece of the ground he can get powerfull shots. What i think is overrated is his SP imo 89 is too much I agree, he's one of the best when it comes to shooting under pressure or from tight angles. Also agree with lowering SP 86/ 87 would be fine and 90 ST.
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Markulur
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:05 pm Posts: 5571 Location: Terrassa, Barcelona, Spain
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
Updated DA and Agility and waiting for more discusion about shoting.
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Fides
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:39 pm Posts: 5839 Location: Leiden, the Netherlands
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
I think DA 88 and DS 86 is really a bit generous, how often does he really dribble past opponents? He rather goes for the shot/pass. Robben en van der Vaart are clearly better dribblers then Wes.
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Ulises
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:37 pm Posts: 851 Location: Gijón, Asturias, España
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
Fides wrote: I think DA 88 and DS 86 is really a bit generous, how often does he really dribble past opponents? He rather goes for the shot/pass. Robben en van der Vaart are clearly better dribblers then Wes. You are right that in real life he doesn't dribble he doesn't use to try to dribble, but he is a player that is very difficult to steal him the ball. As i said in the other forum he has good agility and good DA but he has a low balance and low speed with the ball, the current values of DA and agility allows him to hold and keep the ball very well, but his speed with the ball and balance doesn't allows him to dribble past, just try ingame this stats. About VDV is better dribbler... i am absolutly in disagree, he is more accurate but is not better dribbler than wes because of his low speed and agility.
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Tom
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:18 pm Posts: 12041 Location: Billericay
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
Fides wrote: I think DA 88 and DS 86 is really a bit generous, how often does he really dribble past opponents? He rather goes for the shot/pass. Robben en van der Vaart are clearly better dribblers then Wes. Well considering that he doesn't have any dribbling related Special Abilities, he's not really going to attempt to get past his man at all.
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ravlee
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:14 pm Posts: 238
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GoonerLover66 wrote: Fides wrote: I think DA 88 and DS 86 is really a bit generous, how often does he really dribble past opponents? He rather goes for the shot/pass. Robben en van der Vaart are clearly better dribblers then Wes. Well considering that he doesn't have any dribbling related Special Abilities, he's not really going to attempt to get past his man at all. but he has * Tactical Dribbling.. (player who has the Tactical Dribble special ability will use dribbling as a means to retain possession under pressure).. does he even deserve that star? cause I think Fides is right.. whenever he's in possession of ball he immediately or mostly goes for the pass/shot.. :/ anyways 88/86 is a little too high imo.. instead of upping his DA/DS we should have upped his LPA/LPS .. i think LPA is worth more than 86.. I mean his crosses and long passes are deadly accurate and have a very good speed, although speed is already pretty much spot on.. max +1 for LPS, but as for LPA I think 88-90 wouldn't be too far of, would it?
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Tavo
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:01 am Posts: 149 Location: aka Perfectio
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
We've discussed the fact that Wesley won't try to beat his marker with these stats, his special star AND the high teamwork will make him act like he does in reality, he has an amazing close control.
About ST, I wouldn't lower it, he hasn't been scoring from weird angles or anything like that, but that could be 'cause he's been given a role that is not the same that he had at Ajax, where he could shoot with even more time, allowing him to show his technique in that area.
Regarding LP abilities, I'd agree about an increase, Fides stated after the Sweden game that his long passing was brilliant that match and he's been excellent at it for Madrid.
He'll start in Camp Nou apparently, great news if that's not pushing him too much after his last injury.
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LaitP
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:33 pm Posts: 23 Location: Bahrain
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
so what about LPA: 88 LPS: 88 SP: 86 ST: 90
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Ulises
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:37 pm Posts: 851 Location: Gijón, Asturias, España
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
LaitP wrote: so what about LPA: 88 LPS: 88 SP: 86 ST: 90 I agree about the shot power and tecnique. But i disagree about LPA and LPS (you are suggesing to put LPS at 88, and it is now in that number!!!!), i think his short passes are more accurate and faster than his long passes, his final, killer passes are alway short passes. I would kept LPA 86 and LPS 88, as it is now in first and rise a bit, his SPA and SPS. I found that he can preform short passes very fast with good accuaracy. I also think we can lower his ACC by 1 point and his Dribble Speed by 1 or 2 points. Like i said before, he hides the ball very well and keeps it close to the feet showing good DA, and great agility with fast movents and stading with better balanced players, making him a difficult player to steal the ball, but in my opinion he is not that fast with the ball and hasn't got that pace, that makes him better at dribbling when in real life doesn't use to dribble. He doesn't dribble past opponents at all, instead of that, he uses his abilities (DA and agility) to find a space to pass or shot. So i agree with the suggested SP and ST, but i think we can change other things istead of long pass abilities: Acceleration: 84 (-1) DS: 85/ 84 (-1/-2) SPA: 86 (+2) SPS: 88 (+4) SP: 85 (-4) ST: 90 (+3) I think that this changes will suit him better, making him better at his passing and shoting abilities and lowering his dribble ones.
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as_10
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:04 pm Posts: 1490 Location: Figueres, Catalunya
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
i absolutely disagree with ST 90! he isnt as good as VdV, better than Eto'o and Torres or that close to Villa.
keep it as it is
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Ulises
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:37 pm Posts: 851 Location: Gijón, Asturias, España
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as_10 wrote: i absolutely disagree with ST 90! he isnt as good as VdV, better than Eto'o and Torres or that close to Villa.
keep it as it is First shot tecnique: How much higher it is, the player will make faster shots, better shots under preassure, and better shots without angle. I find that he can perform shots faster than eto'o and VDV. And he use to make really good shots under preassure (even with his low balance). And no doubt about angle, he has scored many goals without angel. Eto's is more accurate and and more powerfull in his shots but he can't perform them faster than sneijder imo, sneijder should world class in this...
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Fides
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:39 pm Posts: 5839 Location: Leiden, the Netherlands
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
I think the decrease of his SP is a bit strange. He one of the players who can score powerfull free kicks from 30 meters like 1 and 2. I think SP 88/89 is fair
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Ulises
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:37 pm Posts: 851 Location: Gijón, Asturias, España
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Fides wrote: I think the decrease of his SP is a bit strange. He one of the players who can score powerfull free kicks from 30 meters like 1 and 2. I think SP 88/89 is fair Yes that's true probably 88 (-1)?¿ Acceleration: 84 (-1) DS: 85/ 84 (-1/-2) SPA: 86 (+2) SPS: 88 (+4) SP: 88 (-1) ST: 90 (+3)
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Tavo
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:01 am Posts: 149 Location: aka Perfectio
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 Re: Wesley SNEIJDER
Ulises, why are you suddenly asking to lower his ACC and DS when you were among the ones that asked to raise it? Have you seen him slower? Do you think he's too fast in the game?
Think about this... when does he actually use his top speed REALLY in top speed? For a player that is always near the center, where the pressure is tighter, his moves are fast, but not on top gear 'cause he rarely has the space to do that.
About SP, no way...his shots have the speed and the power that an 89 does.
Edit: I disagree about changing anyone of his shooting stats. I agree about a change in the passing stats, not sure what numbers, I'd have to take a look.
Apparently he'll play today, great news if he doesn't get hurt.
EDIT2: Damn it, he lasted only 35 minutes and got injured. And today he WAS playing on the right side, cause Juande plays a 4-4-2.
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Ulises
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:37 pm Posts: 851 Location: Gijón, Asturias, España
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Tavo wrote: Ulises, why are you suddenly asking to lower his ACC and DS when you were among the ones that asked to raise it? Have you seen him slower? Do you think he's too fast in the game?
Think about this... when does he actually use his top speed REALLY in top speed? For a player that is always near the center, where the pressure is tighter, his moves are fast, but not on top gear 'cause he rarely has the space to do that.
About SP, no way...his shots have the speed and the power that an 89 does.
Edit: I disagree about changing anyone of his shooting stats. I agree about a change in the passing stats, not sure what numbers, I'd have to take a look.
Apparently he'll play today, great news if he doesn't get hurt. You are wrong about he always plays on the center, since he recovered of the injure, he used to play in the wing, showing that he is faster. That's why i suggested a rise of speed and DS. I wasn't who suggested the value of the ACC, but it seems a bit high to me. About DS yes i agreed to that value, but afeter playing and testing him i find that he should be a bit slower with the ball. But i can't understand where is the problem here?¿ Are you always right, you never make mistakes?¿
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