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Personally i think it's quite wrong giving Balotelli *Post Player. Mourinho himself said that Balotelli despite being tall and pretty sized isnt enough good on aerial. also he doesnt like aerial play whilst he prefer playing ball on the ground.
I know that he's so young,but imo one of his great attributes is being calm and cold against the keeper alone,like when against fiorentina he knew that frey is a keeper who stays up until the last and then shooted instantly without giving a chance to frey to close the space.Probably id give him 1-1 Scoring if i have to catch on of his good features.

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Personally i think it's quite wrong giving Balotelli *Post Player. Mourinho himself said that Balotelli despite being tall and pretty sized isnt enough good on aerial. also he doesnt like aerial play whilst he prefer playing ball on the ground.


*Post Player does not affect a player's aerial ability, though. It just affects a player's ability to hold the ball up, awaiting for support from his team-mates whilst shielding it from opposition. Which is something Balotelli is quite skilled at, holding a marker off whilst waiting for another player to ask for a pass.

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I know that he's so young,but imo one of his great attributes is being calm and cold against the keeper alone,like when against fiorentina he knew that frey is a keeper who stays up until the last and then shooted instantly without giving a chance to frey to close the space.Probably id give him 1-1 Scoring if i have to catch on of his good features.


In my earliest set, I already gave him the 1-on-1 scoring ability yet everybody said it was pre-mature and wrong to do so despite Mario displaying excellent ability in 1-on-1 situations throughout his entire (short) career.

It's a bit ironic speaking of this after last game against Chievo, where he failed 1-on-1, but I do think he deserves. Probably more so than many others that have the star, if you ask me.

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actually i think post player* is wrong because he's more likely to take on a defender with a dribble than wait for support to lay off a pass. Don't you think? I don't think 1v1 is warranted. He's a ballsy player, takes chances, not skillful in 1v1s compared with Milito for example.

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Well from what i have seen, he isn't strong at all in battle's, everytime 1 or 2 men challenged him in the Chievo game he was down, i guess he's like Drogba only uses strength when he feels like it :/

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i m pretty sure he deserves some tricks cards, any thoughts guys ?


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actually i think post player* is wrong because he's more likely to take on a defender with a dribble than wait for support to lay off a pass. Don't you think? I don't think 1v1 is warranted. He's a ballsy player, takes chances, not skillful in 1v1s compared with Milito for example.


It's a questionable star, I guess. One that I'd give him, based on his tendency to drop back and get involved into play and hold up the ball a good few times. But arguments can be made to not give it too.

As for 1-on-1, he may not be as skilful as Milito but he certainly does net more of those situations than the average Serie A forward I feel. One also has to consider Milito's SA and ST ratings being far higher than Mario's.

As for trick-cards, the only card I feel he'd deserve would be Scooping. The rest of the tricks he either doesn't perform frequently enough or hasn't displayed at all.

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It's a questionable star, I guess. One that I'd give him, based on his tendency to drop back and get involved into play and hold up the ball a good few times. But arguments can be made to not give it too.
that is true. could go either way really. But I feel its his ability to dribble past opponents is why he enjoys many 1st team opportunities. He's the only player Inter has like this. Players like Cassano and Pazzini collect a pass and wait for support. Balotelli will collect it and then turn and run at defenders.

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As for 1-on-1, he may not be as skilful as Milito but he certainly does net more of those situations than the average Serie A forward I feel. One also has to consider Milito's SA and ST ratings being far higher than Mario's.
That is true. But he also has a tendency to try and go round the keeper or trick the keeper into committing first. Players like Del Piero and Totti just bury their shots.

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As for trick-cards, the only card I feel he'd deserve would be Scooping. The rest of the tricks he either doesn't perform frequently enough or hasn't displayed at all.
Trickster cards is for those step overs he does quite often or those tact-dribble type dribbles.

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Rfuna wrote:
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As for trick-cards, the only card I feel he'd deserve would be Scooping. The rest of the tricks he either doesn't perform frequently enough or hasn't displayed at all.
Trickster cards is for those step overs he does quite often or those tact-dribble type dribbles.

I would give him "Quick scissors dribble".

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@Rfuna & AB1
he has Trickster so i think his cards can be left, as adding trick cards would be pointless IMO because he only does stepovers & that card reads "uses the stepover to deadly effect" i mean i dont watch him everygame & i hate his team but do as you please because you are Inter fans & obviously see more. can R80 be unlocked he has changed alot since he was last posted in & add his cards i can do a cards summary if you want ;)

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Rfuna wrote:
that is true. could go either way really. But I feel its his ability to dribble past opponents is why he enjoys many 1st team opportunities. He's the only player Inter has like this. Players like Cassano and Pazzini collect a pass and wait for support. Balotelli will collect it and then turn and run at defenders.


Yup. Let's just leave it at this then, I'll just put Optional behind the *Post Player star. There's no such card in the new PES anyway, it's integrated in the Body Balance stat along with Mentality and Defence I believe so no worries about that anymore.

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That is true. But he also has a tendency to try and go round the keeper or trick the keeper into committing first. Players like Del Piero and Totti just bury their shots.


Difficult to rate but I'd personally give it for his efficiency in such situations. Again, one could make it Optional.

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Trickster cards is for those step overs he does quite often or those tact-dribble type dribbles.


Well, if that's the case there'll be no need for a Quick Scissors Dribble then. He is no Mancini or Robinho, throwing about 5 step-overs before going past a player in one go. He usually does the step-over you can perform by pressing R2 twice (dunno what the button for 360 is).

I request Scooping for the specific flicks he tends to do from time to time.

Oh, and a nice little vid from Esoesgallo for you guys. ;)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anHrBBHg144[/youtube]

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Ajacied_Breda1 wrote:
Rfuna wrote:
that is true. could go either way really. But I feel its his ability to dribble past opponents is why he enjoys many 1st team opportunities. He's the only player Inter has like this. Players like Cassano and Pazzini collect a pass and wait for support. Balotelli will collect it and then turn and run at defenders.


Yup. Let's just leave it at this then, I'll just put Optional behind the *Post Player star. There's no such card in the new PES anyway, it's integrated in the Body Balance stat along with Mentality and Defence I believe so no worries about that anymore.
Isn't Post Player integrated in the "Fox in the Box" card?

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Shouldn't the word "optional" be banned from the whole forum?

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Shouldn't the word "optional" be banned from the whole forum?


Nope, you can't expect us to be moderators AND the word police. On the other hand, I'm prepared to ban the use of the word crescendo ;)

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Shouldn't the word "optional" be banned from the whole forum?
I too do not like its use in first posts in relation to *Stars, as how is a person who does not watch a player regularily supposed to decide whether an optional star is good to be included or left out whe updating their OF?

I agree with adding *1-1 Scoring on the other hand, he despite his tender age is already quite composed and lethal in 1-1's, the marking of a great future scorer (possibly prolific) no doubt.


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Agree with 1-1 Scoring.

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I agree with 1-1 too ;)

oh, and the ban thing was a joke, only meaning I don't get why it is still used... we don't put stats in ranges, do we? there is a set, a definite set, and then if an user wants no one stops him to edit his own OF :)

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Yeah, fine, whatever. I don't suppose you have any better ideas.

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I can agree to 1-1 too


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Radio Killa wrote:
Ajacied_Breda1 wrote:
Rfuna wrote:
that is true. could go either way really. But I feel its his ability to dribble past opponents is why he enjoys many 1st team opportunities. He's the only player Inter has like this. Players like Cassano and Pazzini collect a pass and wait for support. Balotelli will collect it and then turn and run at defenders.


Yup. Let's just leave it at this then, I'll just put Optional behind the *Post Player star. There's no such card in the new PES anyway, it's integrated in the Body Balance stat along with Mentality and Defence I believe so no worries about that anymore.
Isn't Post Player integrated in the "Fox in the Box" card?


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P21 – Fox in the Box (CF) (Offensive)
A striker who lurks in the opposition 18 yard box just waiting for the ball.

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lets just get rid of postplayer*. It's enough that he's a SS so he will naturally play closer to the midfield to collect passes. TW should go up 1/2 pts to show that he links up decently with his team mates. Still on the fence about 1v1*. He has a brazen attitude, he'll try anything. I don't think he has the 'quality' or consistency quite yet. And with his current curling and shooting stats he can pull off a 1v1 fairly easily. Let his score a 1v1 vs Frey and then we can talk ;)

Agree to "Quick Scissors Dribble". Trickster is for more moderate dribbles while the Quick Scissors Dribble refers to those quick step overs he regularly does when running at defenders (at the moment, he's better at them than either Robinho or Mancini)

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