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psd123
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:06 pm Posts: 41
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 Alberto GILARDINO
BASED ON STATS BY RED PHOENIX & MILANISTA90Name: Alberto Gilardino Club: ACF FiorentinaNumber: 11Position: CF*Nationality: Italian  Age: 28 (05/07/1982 )Foot: R Side: B Length: 184 cm Weight: 79 kg Attack: 90Defence: 32 Balance: 83Stamina: 86Top Speed: 82Acceleration: 82Response: 90Agility: 82Dribble Accuracy: 79Dribble Speed: 78Short Pass Accuracy: 74 Short Pass Speed: 74 Long Pass Accuracy: 71 Long Pass Speed: 73 Shot Accuracy: 85Shot Power: 81Shot Technique: 89Free Kick Accuracy: 66 Curling: 81Header: 87Jump: 82Technique: 82Aggression: 90Mentality: 79Keeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 79Injury Tolerancy: ACondition/Fitness: 7Weak Foot Accuracy: 6 Weak Foot Frequency: 5 Consistency: 6 INDEX CARDS:P15 – Goal Poacher P21 – Fox in the Box S05 – 1-touch play SPECIAL ABILITIES:*Positioning *Scoring *Post Player *Lines *1-Touch Pass *Center [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZ0Y7zkZ9A&feature=sub[/youtube]
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DeFrenZ
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:15 pm Posts: 1821 Location: Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
I think HEA 86-88... he's so good with it he's scoring a lot of goals...
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PMC
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:51 pm Posts: 8158 Location: Vienna
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
I agree.... his heading can be high 80s atleast... this season he was absolutely dominant in the air scoring vital goals...
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spinaL
Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 1017
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Also agree His heading abilities are one of the best of Serie A.
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jmg721
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:47 pm Posts: 6765 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
I appreciate the enthusiasm in this thread as I am a Fiorentina fan. With a value of the High...here is how he compares with other Serie A CFs in header. And most of them are less accurate on goal, but use it more in passing and winning balls.
Trezuguet: 94 Cruz: 87 Amauri: 86 Corradi: 86 Denis: 86 Crespo: 86 Pippo: 85 Bogdani: 85 Adriano: 84 S. Inzahhi: 84 Stellone: 84 Bianchi: 83 Amoruso: 83 (most similar in heading style to Gilardinho) Jeffe: 83 Borreillo: 83 Iaquinta: 82 Ibra: 82 Baptista: 82 Spinesi: 82 Rocchi: 81 Zalyeta: 81 Tiribocchi: 80
He is currently at an 84. Looking at this make shift ladder....what value would fit him best?
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ravlee
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:14 pm Posts: 238
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
i think that he could be at Amauri's level (86)
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| Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:38 am |
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DeFrenZ
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:15 pm Posts: 1821 Location: Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
I think that it's not out of place on 88, or even 89... he's actually better of all of them (except treze) with raw heading ability... of course arriving to do the header (BB and JMP) it's another issue  and i also feel he's at least 1-2 point above amauri (which is the one i know better)
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ravlee
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:14 pm Posts: 238
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
DeFrenZ wrote: I think that it's not out of place on 88, or even 89... he's actually better of all of them (except treze) with raw heading ability... of course arriving to do the header (BB and JMP) it's another issue  and i also feel he's at least 1-2 point above amauri (which is the one i know better) well u gotta define "raw heading ability" do u mean "goalscoring" or "passing" with it? 'cause while gilardino is better a scoring with headers (than amauri) I think that amauri is a lot better at passing.. and when I combine those too thingys I think they should both sit on 86
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DeFrenZ
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:15 pm Posts: 1821 Location: Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
the thing is... that passing usually is made with pressure by others, thus BB comes in... of course in scoring too this is true, but using ATK you can evade defenders with experience and create more good chances  and he has GOOD attack
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ravlee
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:14 pm Posts: 238
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
DeFrenZ wrote: the thing is... that passing usually is made with pressure by others, thus BB comes in... of course in scoring too this is true, but using ATK you can evade defenders with experience and create more good chances  and he has GOOD attack  yes as u said.. he has a very good attack, but that's the point.. he already positions himself so good that he doesn't make any super-headers... u know what I mean? he's very good at heading no doubt, but I think we look a little bit too much on his scoring record with his head.. i mean if u position yourself better than the most defenders than u have free space and can likely chose how u want to score ..
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nico90
Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:54 pm Posts: 645
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
I think that 87-88 would suit him fine
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| Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:57 pm |
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DeFrenZ
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:15 pm Posts: 1821 Location: Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
ravlee wrote: DeFrenZ wrote: the thing is... that passing usually is made with pressure by others, thus BB comes in... of course in scoring too this is true, but using ATK you can evade defenders with experience and create more good chances  and he has GOOD attack  yes as u said.. he has a very good attack, but that's the point.. he already positions himself so good that he doesn't make any super-headers... u know what I mean? he's very good at heading no doubt, but I think we look a little bit too much on his scoring record with his head.. i mean if u position yourself better than the most defenders than u have free space and can likely chose how u want to score .. yeah, that is right... but the thing that impresses me is HOW these goals are made... one excellent example is his last goal yesterday against steaua ^^
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ravlee
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:14 pm Posts: 238
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DeFrenZ wrote: ravlee wrote: DeFrenZ wrote: the thing is... that passing usually is made with pressure by others, thus BB comes in... of course in scoring too this is true, but using ATK you can evade defenders with experience and create more good chances  and he has GOOD attack  yes as u said.. he has a very good attack, but that's the point.. he already positions himself so good that he doesn't make any super-headers... u know what I mean? he's very good at heading no doubt, but I think we look a little bit too much on his scoring record with his head.. i mean if u position yourself better than the most defenders than u have free space and can likely chose how u want to score .. yeah, that is right... but the thing that impresses me is HOW these goals are made... one excellent example is his last goal yesterday against steaua ^^ well haven't seen his goal against steaua.. i watched bayern-lyon and still have to watch the recaps for the other matches.. but anyways.. I'm sticking with my 86 for header, 'cause he already has 88 for attack.. if anything than i think his attack could go up to 89 or even higher after this season, 'cause imo gilardinos positioning is pure class :/
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jmg721
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:47 pm Posts: 6765 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
This is what it looks like.... Suggestion Recap: Header: 87-88(defrenz)(pmc)(nico)(bret) 86(ravlee)(spinal) attk: 89(ravlee)(spinal)(hitman)
I unfortunitely can't agree or disagree with the heading stat. I use Fiorentina in the game, and I have no problem with his ability to get his headers on target. But in looking at the ladder I feel a boost to 86 wouldn't be unreasonable. I do agree with his attack going up. Not sure how high....but I believe his attacking ability is world class. Hopefully he can stay at his current form. If it weren't for some bad years at Milan, I'd probably suggest some "godly" numbers for attack.
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| Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:56 pm |
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ravlee
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:14 pm Posts: 238
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
jmg721 wrote: This is what it looks like.... Suggestion Recap: Header: 87-88(defrenz)(pmc)(spinal)(nico) 86(ravlee) attk: 89(ravlee)
I unfortunitely can't agree or disagree with the heading stat. I use Fiorentina in the game, and I have no problem with his ability to get his headers on target. But in looking at the ladder I feel a boost to 86 wouldn't be unreasonable. I do agree with his attack going up. Not sure how high....but I believe his attacking ability is world class. Hopefully he can stay at his current form. If it weren't for some bad years at Milan, I'd probably suggest some "godly" numbers for attack. i'm not for header 87/ 88 - i'm for header 86 + ATT 89 and maybe after this season > 90, since he already had 90 once b4 on the old forum..
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| Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:22 pm |
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spinaL
Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 1017
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
I agree with you ravlee
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Bret_Hart_67
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:08 pm Posts: 3568 Location: France
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7 points difference between Gilardino's header and Toni's  I'm not a Gilardino fan at all, but hey, his header seems to be his main asset so I agree with high 80's for his header
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| Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:12 pm |
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jmg721
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:47 pm Posts: 6765 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Updated Header to 87 Is there still more discussion on his attack value?
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HitMan
Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:59 pm Posts: 784
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
ravlee wrote: jmg721 wrote: This is what it looks like.... Suggestion Recap: Header: 87-88(defrenz)(pmc)(spinal)(nico) 86(ravlee) attk: 89(ravlee)
I unfortunitely can't agree or disagree with the heading stat. I use Fiorentina in the game, and I have no problem with his ability to get his headers on target. But in looking at the ladder I feel a boost to 86 wouldn't be unreasonable. I do agree with his attack going up. Not sure how high....but I believe his attacking ability is world class. Hopefully he can stay at his current form. If it weren't for some bad years at Milan, I'd probably suggest some "godly" numbers for attack. i'm not for header 87/ 88 - i'm for header 86 + ATT 89 and maybe after this season > 90, since he already had 90 once b4 on the old forum.. agree with attack 89 for now..hes in form, but well see how he performs when season continues..
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Ace
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:39 pm Posts: 2976 Location: Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
i agree with attack 89 (for now), Gila is back!
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| Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:08 pm |
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