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psd123
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:06 pm Posts: 41
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 Alberto GILARDINO
BASED ON STATS BY RED PHOENIX & MILANISTA90Name: Alberto Gilardino Club: ACF FiorentinaNumber: 11Position: CF*Nationality: Italian  Age: 28 (05/07/1982 )Foot: R Side: B Length: 184 cm Weight: 79 kg Attack: 90Defence: 32 Balance: 83Stamina: 86Top Speed: 82Acceleration: 82Response: 90Agility: 82Dribble Accuracy: 79Dribble Speed: 78Short Pass Accuracy: 74 Short Pass Speed: 74 Long Pass Accuracy: 71 Long Pass Speed: 73 Shot Accuracy: 85Shot Power: 81Shot Technique: 89Free Kick Accuracy: 66 Curling: 81Header: 87Jump: 82Technique: 82Aggression: 90Mentality: 79Keeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 79Injury Tolerancy: ACondition/Fitness: 7Weak Foot Accuracy: 6 Weak Foot Frequency: 5 Consistency: 6 INDEX CARDS:P15 – Goal Poacher P21 – Fox in the Box S05 – 1-touch play SPECIAL ABILITIES:*Positioning *Scoring *Post Player *Lines *1-Touch Pass *Center [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZ0Y7zkZ9A&feature=sub[/youtube]
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| Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:18 pm |
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Rfuna
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:49 am Posts: 3390 Location: ATL
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
jmg721 wrote: I was going to wait to see if there were any objections, as I am a Viola fan...and didn't want to seem biased. But whatever...Updated  good updates.
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nico90
Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:54 pm Posts: 645
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
I would increase his Agility by 1, (to 85), on par with Quagliarella and just under Jovetic.
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zuo
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:34 am Posts: 2276 Location: North Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
with all respect imo this value is already high,he isnt worth that value ball at feet,he is not comfortably.
also his speed stats are a lil' high,i honestly can't see him in par/this close to Milito.
on the opposite side,both MEN and TW can go up,he fight quite a bit and moves A LOT for the team.
dunno if it fits perfectly but i feel good giving him *center.
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DeFrenZ
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:15 pm Posts: 1821 Location: Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
indeed, AGI and TS/ACC are a bit overrated.
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PMC
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:51 pm Posts: 8158 Location: Vienna
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
yeah I agree agility looks a bid high there... he never struck me as such a player that can twist and turn quickly at all
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zuo
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:34 am Posts: 2276 Location: North Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
imo an update could be:
TW: 81: Andrea COSSU, Raffaele PALLADINO, Fabrizio MICCOLI, Luciano FIGUEROA, Samuel ETO'O, Tommaso ROCCHI, Francesco TAVANO, Claudio BELLUCCI, Giampaolo PAZZINI
i see him in par of those,a good amount of link up play,running for the team...
MEN: 83:Vitali KUTUZOV, Luciano FIGUEROA, Samuel ETO'O, Diego MILITO 82:Giampaolo PAZZINI 81:Francesco TAVANO 80:BARRETO, Marco DI VAIO, Hérnan CRESPO, Tomas DANILEVICIUS
in my opinion he's at least at @81,with pazzini slightly more determined than him. i don't see crespo more hardworker/determined.
AGI: @83 there are Pandev and Floro Flores,two guys surely over him in agility terms both ball and feet and without. i put him at least at 82 or lower,@82 he would be with pazzini,zalayeta and pre-update milito.
for TS i can't see him over Acquafresca and Quagliarella @81 And ACC i see him @83 .
i tried him with center times ago and i feel him more realistic as a lone-striker.
so: ACC @ 83 TS @ 81 AGI @ 82 MEN @ 81 TW @ 81 *Center
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| Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:31 pm |
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PMC
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:51 pm Posts: 8158 Location: Vienna
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
I mean i never really followed Gilardino to a great extent or better put I never looked at him with stats eyes but I'm quite confident that I could find atleast 2-3 players in every romanian team that can turn faster than him.
what surprises me a bid as well is his relatively low technique. I know he's not a technical footballer but he always seemed to have a great 1st touch that helped him to get control of a ball even in very difficult situations.
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| Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:33 pm |
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zuo
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:34 am Posts: 2276 Location: North Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
PMC wrote: I mean i never really followed Gilardino to a great extent or better put I never looked at him with stats eyes but I'm quite confident that I could find atleast 2-3 players in every romanian team that can turn faster than him.
what surprises me a bid as well is his relatively low technique. I know he's not a technical footballer but he always seemed to have a great 1st touch that helped him to get control of a ball even in very difficult situations. so you cant say your opinion about speeds/men/tw? what do you think about agi value? actually i have doubts about 81 or 82.... about the TEC thing,82+*Post Player can be enough for what are you talkin about..or you feel an higher TEC value also?
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| Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:50 pm |
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crisfar
Joined: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:51 pm Posts: 580
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
He showed a great leap in his goal against Cagliari last match...Jump @ 84-85
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| Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:23 am |
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zuo
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:34 am Posts: 2276 Location: North Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
crisfar wrote: He showed a great leap in his goal against Cagliari last match...Jump @ 84-85 his value is actually fine. he is no way on par with chiellini...we should move te whole ladder 2 points higher,i don't think it's the case...
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DeFrenZ
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:15 pm Posts: 1821 Location: Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
I'd lower TS/ACC/AGI and raise ATK/HEA
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Rfuna
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:49 am Posts: 3390 Location: ATL
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
zuo wrote: ACC @ 83 TS @ 81 AGI @ 82 MEN @ 81 TW @ 81 *Center looks good to me. Agreed
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| Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:19 pm |
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Ace
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:39 pm Posts: 2976 Location: Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
to me too it can be good
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jmg721
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:47 pm Posts: 6765 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
I'm not sure I agree....but whatever.
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| Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:50 pm |
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Rfuna
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:49 am Posts: 3390 Location: ATL
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
jmg721 wrote: I'm not sure I agree....but whatever. specify, specify... what don't you agree with?
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| Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:56 pm |
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jmg721
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:47 pm Posts: 6765 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
None of em really. I used to not like the current values of 83/85...but in watching him closely there were occassions I'd get him confused with Mutu. Not sure there is good reasoning for the lowering of his speed. I know he has a pretty sick ST value, but a lot of his chances and awesome shots are due to his agility. Again this value originally looked a bit high, but in watching his game closely you will notice it is an essential part of his game. Like my arguement for holding off on raising Giovinco....Gilardino DOES effectively use his agility. These just seem like shots in the dark to me. Gilardino has given a great effort in attack, and shown some duribility. But for me, that is more of Stamina than Mentality. Plus there were no menton of Defense or Stamina in the suggestions. As mentality has an effect on both. I just need more convincing on both of these. To put his TW almost on par with Pazzini...not sure about that. We want Gilardino to be a bit selfish in the game, as he is Fiorentina's primary scorer. Raising his TW might not be very accurate to the way he plays. Someone also mentioned Tech, and I must say I thought it was higher than 82 currently....So maybe I'd agree to that being raised. This one I have the least problem with. I can't really picture him not attacking from a central role.
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nico90
Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:54 pm Posts: 645
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
jmg721 wrote: I know he has a pretty sick ST value, but a lot of his chances and awesome shots are due to his agility. Again this value originally looked a bit high, but in watching his game closely you will notice it is an essential part of his game. Like my arguement for holding off on raising Giovinco....Gilardino DOES effectively use his agility. About this I'm with Jason, his agility is THE skill that help him when he tries to shoot though he's closed between many defenders, along with ST. Despite his size he's a very agile player.. other thing...I agree about adding center.
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| Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:33 am |
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zuo
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:34 am Posts: 2276 Location: North Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
honestly i never confuse Gilardino & Mutu,there is a significantly difference in speed between the two...but if people here are satisfied with: 83: Sebastian GIOVINCO (88, 164, 62), SAVIO Nsereko (87, 176, 73), Marek HAMSIK (87, 183, 73), CICINHO (86, 172, 68), Mauro ESPOSITO (86, 172, 71), Marco MARCHIONNI (86, 175, 66), Juan Guillermo CUADRADO (86, 176, 67), Valeri BOJINOV (86, 178, 78), Edison CAVANI (86, 184, 71), Andrea COSSU (85, 171, 63), Claudio BELLUCCI (85, 173, 70), Francesco TAVANO (85, 174, 71), Rodrigo TADDEI (85, 177, 69), Tommaso ROCCHI (85, 177, 71), RONALDINHO (85, 182, 80), Alberto GILARDINO (85, 184, 79), John Arne RIISE (85, 185, 77), Mauro CAMORANESI (84, 174, 70), DIEGO (84, 174, 76), JEDA (84, 176, 74), Luigi VITALE (84, 178, 71), Max TONETTO (84, 180, 73), Jorge MARTÍNEZ (84, 181, 80), Vitali KUTUZOV (84, 183, 83), Davide MARCHINI (83, 178, 77), Martín CÁCERES (83, 182, 70), Stephen MAKINWA (83, 186, 77), Marius STANKEVICIUS (83, 189, 83), BARRETO (82, 168, 59), Adriano FERREIRA PINTO (82, 178, 70), Mourad MEGHNI (82, 180, 72), Marco ROSSI (82, 181, 67), Mark BRESCIANO (82, 182, 73), FELIPE Melo (82, 183, 80), Andrea RAGGI (82, 184, 80), Gianluca COMOTTO (81, 181, 79), Stefan RADU (81, 183, 79), Gennaro SARDO (81, 190, 87), FELIPE dal Belo (80, 188, 80), Sulley MUNTARI (79, 179, 79), Gaby MUDINGAYI (79, 180, 80), Federico BALZARETTI (78, 178, 70)
Mentality @ 73 is a really off the mark value...with del piero @ 77,Jeda @78,Mutu and Jovetic @ 79.....imo Gilardino deserves an higher value than those,with maybe a tweak in his defence..
For the AGI thing,being honest i only evaluated the ability of th player ball at feet,how comfortable he is,actually your point is quite good but i refer that a lot much to ST. for an example if you remember Bologna-Fiorentina(1-1) Osvaldo was a bit tricky and agile ball at feet,and his current agility is 83. Pulling off a classic example,Ibra is on agility 87,and currently he's 195 cms,95 kgs.
For the TW thing,if you play the 4-2-3-1 formation as in reality,he would be always the top scorer as a lone striker.
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Rfuna
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:49 am Posts: 3390 Location: ATL
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
jmg721 wrote: I used to not like the current values of 83/85...but in watching him closely there were occassions I'd get him confused with Mutu. Maybe TS @ 82 because I think he maintains his speed well, but he's not quick. jmg721 wrote: a lot of his chances and awesome shots are due to his agility. Again this value originally looked a bit high, but in watching his game closely you will notice it is an essential part of his game. Like my arguement for holding off on raising Giovinco....Gilardino DOES effectively use his agility. I think given his h/w, this value is fine. He's done some incredible overhead kicks (vs Inter  ) and he can move his body well to get to awkward balls, but I don't find his movements all that sharp or smooth on the turn or when reaching for the ball. Also, with high response, he will still have a significant advantage over his markers by reacting quicker and thus being the first to the ball.
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| Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:46 pm |
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zuo
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:34 am Posts: 2276 Location: North Italy
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 Re: Alberto GILARDINO
I never looked well at his Injury Tolerance,but now i take a look after mutu's one.....in my opinon he could be on Inury Tolerance A, he tooks a lot of fouls,and in the last 6 Seasons(since he is a first choice in a team...) he Averages 45 Matches for year[from 2003,he was 21 yo].....being a CF in the game imo he warrants an A.
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